GINGRICH-T@osu-20.ircc.ohio-state.edu (Tyler S Gingrich) (10/19/90)
Software Release 2.0 (included w/105Mb drive systems) Workspace Manager Edit Digital Librarian NeXTmail Preferences Preview for PostScript PrintManager Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary Webster's Collegiate Thesaurus WriteNow Word Processor DataViz/Bridge VT100 Terminal Emulator MailManager NetInfoManager NetManager PrinterTester UserManager Installer Software Release 2.0 Extended (included w/340 + Mb drives) All above + Oxford Dictionary of Quotations William Shakespeare, The Complete Works TeX Document Processing System Interface Builder Objective-C Language Compiler C++ Language Compiler Objective-C Class Definitions 56001 DSP Tools GNU Emacs GNU Debugger Bug-56 Debugger (Ariel) Malloc Debugger AppInspector PostScript Tools Application Kit Music Kit Sound Kit On-line Technical Documentation - Lotus Improv available to folks who purchase or upgrade b4 31 Dec 1990. - Mathematica available to higher education customers. Tyler PS: Even though the extended software is not included with a small drive system, I believe that once you buy a NeXT you have rights to all bundled software. If this is true then a 105Mb system user can buy an external drive later and download the other system software from another NeXT.
dave@convex.csd.uwm.edu (David A Rasmussen) (10/19/90)
From article <12630816173032@osu-20.ircc.ohio-state.edu>, by GINGRICH-T@osu-20.ircc.ohio-state.edu (Tyler S Gingrich): PS: Even though the extended software is not included with a small drive system, I believe that once you buy a NeXT you have rights to all bundled software. If this is true then a 105Mb system user can buy an external drive later and download the other system software from another NeXT. So if what you're saying is correct, I should be able to put the distribution on a non-NeXT nfs server for my own use? My situation is whether or not I can get the boss to buy me one or not. I would consider buying the 105Mb slab for myself, but it's not going to be too useful to me without more storage which I can't really afford right now.
scott@NIC.GAC.EDU (10/19/90)
dave@convex.csd.uwm.edu (David A Rasmussen) writes: >From article <12630816173032@osu-20.ircc.ohio-state.edu>, by GINGRICH-T@osu-20.ircc.ohio-state.edu (Tyler S Gingrich): > PS: Even though the extended software is not included with a small > drive system, I believe that once you buy a NeXT you have rights to all > bundled software. > > If this is true then a 105Mb system user can buy an external drive later > and download the other system software from another NeXT. > >So if what you're saying is correct, I should be able to put the >distribution on a non-NeXT nfs server for my own use? > >My situation is whether or not I can get the boss to buy me one or not. >I would consider buying the 105Mb slab for myself, but it's not going >to be too useful to me without more storage which I can't really afford >right now. Since there seems to be alot of confusion on this subject, I place _my_ reading of the 2.0 stuff here . . .: Current users of 1.0 who stay with an '030 cube (both of them) must purchase an upgrade to 2.0, which, so far as I know, has not been set, yet. After purchasing this, they are licensed to run 2.0. Current cube owners who purchase the upgrade to '040 can purchase in one of two ways: with a 105M and without. Or something like that. Since the 105M comes with standard 2.0 pre-installed, it seems obvious that that machine is licensed for 2.0. I'm not sure, though, on the raw upgrade. Since 1.0 will not run on an '040 machine (ROM changes), it seems sensible that the 2.0 upgrade price would be included in the '040 upgrade price. Anyone who buys a NeXTStation or any of the another new systems will automagically be licensed to run 2.0. Now, what does the license to run 2.0 give you? In most cases, the machine, or possibly upgrade, will include the 105M, and thus the standard distribution. Now, here's the main point of this: People who are already licensed to run 2.0 can get 2.0 somehow - buying media from NeXT which happens to have 2.0 on it, from a local NFS server, or via sneaker-net, or any of the other popular NeXT networks. So, this means that anyone who chooses to stay with an '030 must purchase an upgraded license, while everyone else gets it with their new machine or '040 upgrade. Now, I just want to make clear that this has nothing to do with anything that NeXT has told me. I just have brought together stuff I've seen on this newsgroup, and applied a little common sense. scott hess scott@gac.edu Independent NeXT Developer (Stuart) NeXT Campus Consultant (Not much, really) GAC Undergrad (Horrid. Simply Horrid. I mean the work!) <I still speak for nobody>
rca@cs.brown.edu (Ronald C.F. Antony) (10/20/90)
In article <9010190407.AA06996@next-5.gac.edu> scott@NIC.GAC.EDU writes: >dave@convex.csd.uwm.edu (David A Rasmussen) writes: >>From article <12630816173032@osu-20.ircc.ohio-state.edu>, by GINGRICH-T@osu-20.ircc.ohio-state.edu (Tyler S Gingrich): >> PS: Even though the extended software is not included with a small >> drive system, I believe that once you buy a NeXT you have rights to all >> bundled software. >> >Current users of 1.0 who stay with an '030 cube (both of them) must >purchase an upgrade to 2.0, which, so far as I know, has not been >set, yet. After purchasing this, they are licensed to run 2.0. I see a little problem here: The upgrade costs 195$. Included in this price is an OD that costs 145$, keyboard tilt-feet, manuals. Subtracting alls the costs from the upgrade price does not leave much room for license fees. This seems to suggest that if you don't want the tilt feet, the OD or the manuals, then you should be allowed to get 2.0 from your friendly neighbour. Could NeXT comment on this? Yes, I'll get my upgrade anyway, I want to have a clean distribution on a OD... >So, this means that anyone who chooses to stay with an '030 must >purchase an upgraded license, while everyone else gets it with their >new machine or '040 upgrade. No, the board upgrade and the OS upgrade are different order number and are not bundled together. What about buying several boards and only one software upgrade? Ronald ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." Bernhard Shaw | rca@cs.brown.edu or antony@browncog.bitnet
rjtg0209@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (10/23/90)
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