[comp.sys.next] 68040 problems force HP/Apollo upgrade delay

daugher@cs.tamu.edu (Walter C. Daugherity) (10/27/90)

From the November 1990 issue of "Workstation" (an independent news magazine
for HP/Apollo workstation & server users):
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"68040 problems force HP/Apollo upgrade delay

Temperature and compatibility problems with Motorola's latest revision of the
68040 microprocessor have forced Hewlett-Packard to push back the delivery
date for 68040 upgrades.  With the 68040 now at least eight months behind
schedule, HP officials say the company hopes to begin shipping limited
quantities of 68040 upgrades for the HP 9000 Model 345 and 375 in December....
Apollo DN 3500 and 4500...in late January or February....
HP-UX 9000 Series 400 models based on the 68040...several months into the new 
year....

...two major problems prevented HP from shipping...the reliability of systems
using the chips at greater than room temperature was 'not within our specs'
and that they did not maintain object-code compatibility with older 68000
and 68020 systems....

...some units could begin shipping in December in no other major problems are
discovered....

'...it's not whether a single instruction works, it's a certain combination of
instructions in a certain time period that can cause some error states on
the chip,' he said.  'The last chips we got were a big step forward, but
they're not there yet.'"

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Obviously 68000 and 68020 compatibility problems don't concern NeXT, but
marginal tolerance for heat is a serious reliability concern.  Let's hope
it gets solved soon--I've had a NeXT 68040 upgrade on order since May (so
I'm first in line, right? :-)).

Walter Daugherity

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asd@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Kareth) (10/27/90)

In <9558@helios.TAMU.EDU> daugher@cs.tamu.edu (Walter C. Daugherity) writes:

>"68040 problems force HP/Apollo upgrade delay

>Obviously 68000 and 68020 compatibility problems don't concern NeXT, but
>marginal tolerance for heat is a serious reliability concern.  Let's hope
>it gets solved soon--I've had a NeXT 68040 upgrade on order since May (so
>I'm first in line, right? :-)).

Well, I just called NeXT.  I'd talked to somebody else who had said he
heard that the new machines were going to be delayed until late
November.  Sure, it was a rumor, but I wanted to find out!  The person
I talked to said that they are still looking a production starting
next week (ie: Nov 1).  Shipments on the other hand aren't going to be
going out until mid November or so.  So that's the word from the
horse's mouth.

I hope they get this problem fixed too.  And start working on 50Mhz
versions! :)

edwardm@hpcuhd.HP.COM (Edward McClanahan) (10/30/90)

Douglas Barrett writes:

> This was announce by Motorola about 2 months ago.  As I recall it the
> anouncement was "due to Motorola's commitment [......] deleveries in
> quantity [of the '040] the first Q 91"

Is this "first FISCAL quarter '91", or "first CALENDAR quater '91"?

And when does Motorola start their FISCAL year?

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