[comp.sys.next] NeXT behind schedule?

peterd@opus.cs.mcgill.ca (Peter Deutsch) (11/10/90)

I thought that would get your attention...   ;-)


Well, I promised to post if I received confirmation of the
rumours that NeXT wont ship this week. Sigh, they wont
ship this week.

I received a phone call this morning from my NeXT rep who
told me that the chips from Motorola are now due to arrive
on the 15th. She claims that NeXT is ready to build once
shipments of CPUs begin to arrive, and says my machines
should thus ship within four days of the chip shipment -
ie before the 19th.

Well, I was originally told in June that my machines would be
ready by the "end of October" and it looks like they miss
that by at least three weeks. Of course, Sun claim to be able
to ship once they announce.

Hmm, is there a debate here on the merits of
pre-announcing? Should NeXT (and the others who announce
before ship-date) not do this? It gives their competitors
ammunition ("they sell vaporware" which has even been said
here, despite the fact that many people have seen the
68040s running). On the other hand, this is an industry
where the price/performance leader seems to change weekly.
Keeping yourself positioned in this market is tough.

For the record, I'm not mad. I need the machines soon, but
another week or two wont break me and they've been pretty
square. Of course, I got faster response to my queries
_before_ we issued the P.O. :-) (So, how about it? What
_WILL_ you guys due to support our X project?)

Anyways, let's see what everyone has to say.......



				- peterd

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cyliax@ecn.purdue.edu (Ingo Cyliax) (11/10/90)

In article <2431@opus.cs.mcgill.ca>, peterd@opus.cs.mcgill.ca (Peter Deutsch)
writes:

|> Well, I promised to post if I received confirmation of the
|> rumours that NeXT wont ship this week. Sigh, they wont
|> ship this week.

Surprise !

|> 
|> I received a phone call this morning from my NeXT rep who
|> told me that the chips from Motorola are now due to arrive
|> on the 15th. She claims that NeXT is ready to build once
|> shipments of CPUs begin to arrive, and says my machines
|> should thus ship within four days of the chip shipment -
|> ie before the 19th.

I wonder what quantities NeXT will start shipping. With other
words, I wonder volume of '040's they will be able to secure from
Motorola, once they do start shiping ? How far backordered is NeXT
with the NeXTStation as well as the '040 upgrade ?

If I order a NeXTStation or an upgrade today, when should I get it ?

-ingo
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gillies@m.cs.uiuc.edu (11/10/90)

If machines ship on Nov 19th, then it's only a 60-day pre-announce.
It would take me at least 60 days to make up my mind to buy such a
beast.  I still need to spend some time using a public NeXT box at
this university before i am convinced to plunk down the $3500 price.
$3500 for a device not used is $3500 wasted.

Furthermore, this university hasn't even organized its student sales /
support operation, so even if machines were ready Sept 15, they
probably couldn't have been sold until this month anyway.

Sixty days is not a large lead time -- 9-12 months (IBM's practice
with some mainframes) IS a large lead time.