osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn) (11/21/90)
From the mouth of a NeXT employee this evening (20 Nov 90), "The first 68040 systems shipped this afternoon." My suspicion (that NeXT would continue to work on 2.0 until the last minute before the hardware was ready) was, I believe, correct. Having to wait for hardware isn't fun, but we'll probably get a significantly more stable software release because of the delay. For those who havn't seen it, 2.0 is very nice. You'll wonder how you lived with 1.0. - -John H. Osborn -osborn@cs.utexas.edu
gilgalad@caen.engin.umich.edu (Ralph Seguin) (11/21/90)
In article <14917@cs.utexas.edu> osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn) writes: >From the mouth of a NeXT employee this evening (20 Nov 90), >"The first 68040 systems shipped this afternoon." Highly dubious. Could be developer 040 boxes, but regular machines are absolutely out of the question. The 040 is NOT shipping in anything resembling production quantities. If I'm wrong, then it will be a very pleasant surprise. >- >-John H. Osborn >-osborn@cs.utexas.edu See ya, Ralph Ralph Seguin gilgalad@dip.eecs.umich.edu 536 South Forest Apt. #915 gilgalad@caen.engin.umich.edu Ann Arbor, MI 48104 (313) 662-4805
bob@MorningStar.Com (Bob Sutterfield) (11/21/90)
In article <14917@cs.utexas.edu> osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn) writes:
My suspicion (that NeXT would continue to work on 2.0 until the
last minute before the hardware was ready) was, I believe, correct.
Having to wait for hardware isn't fun, but we'll probably get a
significantly more stable software release because of the delay.
Another interpretation would be that they've had all that extra time
to introduce fresh new bugs, without wasting time on regression
testing at the last minute.
(Actually, the software release was probably frozen some time ago, to
allow for production lags at the OD presser, the doc printer, etc.)moose@svc.portal.com (11/22/90)
In article <1990Nov21.062510.25201@engin.umich.edu> gilgalad@caen.engin.umich.edu (Ralph Seguin) writes: >In article <14917@cs.utexas.edu> osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn) writes: >>From the mouth of a NeXT employee this evening (20 Nov 90), >>"The first 68040 systems shipped this afternoon." > >Highly dubious. Could be developer 040 boxes, but regular machines are >absolutely out of the question. The 040 is NOT shipping in anything resembling >production quantities. If I'm wrong, then it will be a very pleasant surprise. You are wrong. Be surprised. And they are customer boxes, not developer boxes. (Customers that order many thousands of machines have a higher priority than developers now). Motorolla is giving NeXT very small numbers of chips, but the machines ARE SHIPPING. -- Michael Rutman | moose@svc.portal.com Cubist | makes me a NeXT programmer Software Ventures | For Your Eyes Only Public Key
minich@d.cs.okstate.edu (Robert Minich) (11/24/90)
moose@svc.portal.com: | You are wrong. Be surprised. And they are customer boxes, not developer | boxes. (Customers that order many thousands of machines have a higher | priority than developers now). Motorolla is giving NeXT very small numbers | of chips, but the machines ARE SHIPPING. Ah, so _this_ is how NeXT sells these new boxes so cheap! It must be very nice to be given some very expensive chips. ;-> | -- | Michael Rutman | moose@svc.portal.com | Cubist | makes me a NeXT programmer | Software Ventures | For Your Eyes Only Public Key -- |_ /| | Robert Minich | |\'o.O' | Oklahoma State University| "Get bent." |=(___)= | minich@d.cs.okstate.edu | -- Bart Simpson | U | - Ackphtth |