gilgalad@caen.engin.umich.edu (Ralph Seguin) (11/28/90)
Howdy. What is the educational price on the 2.88 meg floppy drives? Do they use standard high density floppies? The ones that NeXT sells are VERY expensive... Thanks, Ralph Ralph Seguin gilgalad@dip.eecs.umich.edu 536 South Forest Apt. #915 gilgalad@caen.engin.umich.edu Ann Arbor, MI 48104 (313) 662-4805
flank@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Brett Jacobson) (11/28/90)
In article <1990Nov27.235401.4109@engin.umich.edu> gilgalad@caen.engin.umich.edu (Ralph Seguin) writes: >Howdy. What is the educational price on the 2.88 meg floppy drives? Do they >use standard high density floppies? The ones that NeXT sells are VERY >expensive... > > Thanks, Ralph According to some research into the new 2.88Mb floppy (which is currently only made by Toshiba), it required a special formulation, that is NOTHING like the current HD formula. The 2.88Mb floppy is 4Mb unformatted (so where did all that space go?) and has twice as many sectors/track as teh 1.44Mb HD disks, otherwise it is the same. Chris Petrilli (Forwarded from petrilli@dogface.UUCP)
scott@mcs-server.gac.edu (Scott Hess) (11/28/90)
In article <1990Nov27.235401.4109@engin.umich.edu> gilgalad@caen.engin.umich.edu (Ralph Seguin) writes: >Howdy. What is the educational price on the 2.88 meg floppy drives? Do they >use standard high density floppies? The ones that NeXT sells are VERY >expensive... The reason for the price is that they must use, again, a better substrate, which costs more. What you _can_ do, until the price falls, is fall back to 1.44M high density. You lose some convenience, but as of yet the media is much less than 1/2 the price, so it would just necessitate more swapping. In fact, most software will probably be distributed at that density, to start with, because that's where the upper-end of most duplicating services now reside (though there are companies who are moving to 2.88M, also). -- scott hess scott@gac.edu Independent NeXT Developer (Stuart) GAC Undergrad (Horrid. Simply Horrid. I mean the work!) <I still speak for nobody>
sritchie@cs.ubc.ca (Stuart Ritchie) (11/28/90)
In article <40277@ut-emx.uucp> flank@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Brett Jacobson) writes: >According to some research into the new 2.88Mb floppy (which is currently >only made by Toshiba), it required a special formulation, that is NOTHING >like the current HD formula. The 2.88Mb floppy is 4Mb unformatted (so where >did all that space go?) and has twice as many sectors/track as teh 1.44Mb >HD disks, otherwise it is the same. > >Chris Petrilli >(Forwarded from petrilli@dogface.UUCP) So I can't drill a hole somewhere in my 1.44's to double their capacity? You mean, we have to pay twice as much now? That's no fun. Whaddya think I bought a drill press for? Sleepy Stu...
cyliax@ecn.purdue.edu (Ingo Cyliax) (11/28/90)
Teac also makes a 2.88Mb floppy drive, but I have no idea on wether it will fit (physcially or electrically) in a NeXTStation. It should, however, use the same media and format. -ingo -- /* Ingo Cyliax ECN, Electrical Engineering Bldg. * * cyliax@ecn.purdue.edu Purdue University, W. Lafayette,IN 47907 * * ing@cc.purdue.edu Work: (317) 494-9523 * * cyliax@pur-ee.UUCP Home: (317) 474-0031 */
madler@piglet.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) (11/29/90)
Scott Hess estimates: >> What you _can_ do, until the price falls, is fall back to 1.44M high >> density. You lose some convenience, but as of yet the media is much >> less than 1/2 the price, so it would just necessitate more swapping. The NeXT price for 2.88M's is $8, while I can get 1.44M's for $0.79 from MEI. This makes the price per bit of a 1.44M one-fifth that of a 2.88M. Hopefully, NeXTconnection will offer the disks for a more reasonable price right away, and once other manufacturer's adopt 2.88M, I'd expect to be able to get them for about $2 from MEI one year from now. Mark Adler madler@piglet.caltech.edu
blenko-tom@cs.yale.edu (Tom Blenko) (11/29/90)
|>Howdy. What is the educational price on the 2.88 meg floppy drives? Do they |>use standard high density floppies? The ones that NeXT sells are VERY |>expensive... | |The reason for the price is that they must use, again, a better substrate, |which costs more. The one and only reason for the price is that that is where the seller currently believes he can maximize his profit in the targeted marketplace. The same applies for NeXT machines, Macs, optical disks, optical disk media, computer memory, software of every variety, and most anything else that gets discussed on the net. Yours for better high school education in the largest capitalistic economy in the world, Tom
slone@sctc.com (Joe Paisley) (11/29/90)
Can someone post the model number of the 2.88M floppy drive in the new NeXT machines. I have an '030 cube and would like to do a low-cost floppy upgrade (ie. buy a bare drive from a rep and install it myself). I am assuming the NeXT is using a COTS drive mechanism with no modifications. By the way, I picked up a pristine demo cube in the Businessland firesale and couldn't be more satisfied. Brent Slone slone@sctc.com
gilgalad@caen.engin.umich.edu (Ralph Seguin) (11/29/90)
Well, this discussion of costs of various high density media is all well and fine, but I was more concerned with the cost of the drive, not the disks. I should have been more specific. Any answers here? Thanks, Ralph Ralph Seguin gilgalad@dip.eecs.umich.edu 536 South Forest Apt. #915 gilgalad@caen.engin.umich.edu Ann Arbor, MI 48104 (313) 662-4805