[comp.sys.next] Nexts, Macs & Suns?

eric@brewmaster.bnr.ca (Eric Brunelle) (12/13/90)

I am new to the Next world and unable to find a Next commercial contact
here in Montreal, so I would like to ask this group a few basic questions.
Please respond/flame by email to avoid annoying the group.

I have seen the new Nexts at OOPSLA and they interested me enough that
I'm preparing a proposal to investigate the Nexts for our environment.
We have a large installed base of Macs and Suns.  How would the Nexts
fit into that environment?  Namely:

0. Is there a Canadian 800 number where I could ask the Next 4 questions?
1. Can the Next print to a Laserwriter on an Appletalk-Ethernet gatewayed net?
2. Can the Next feed from a Sun NFS server on Ethernet?
3. How tough is it to port from Next to Sun (using X, not NextStep of course)?
   (I suppose this means "What are the main differences between the 2 Unixes?")
4. What applications would you see as replacing the following Mac applications:

     Mac                             Next
     ---                             ----

     Adobe Illustrator               Adobe Illustrator
     Excel                           Improv
     MacDraw                         ?
     Kaleidagraph                    ?
     Word                            ?
     PageMaker                       ?
     PowerPoint                      ?

On each of the 4 questions, please feel free to comment on personal
experiences.

Thankyou for your time.


DISCLAIMER: This is strictly a personal initiative, and has nothing to do
            yet with BNR.

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  Eric Brunelle                     |     "C'est la nuit qu'il est beau
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majka@cs.ubc.ca (Marc Majka) (12/14/90)

In article <1990Dec13.030626.6208@scrumpy@.bnr.ca> eric@bnrmtl.bnr.ca writes:
>0. Is there a Canadian 800 number where I could ask the Next 4 questions?
800-848-next == 800-848-6398

>1. Can the Next print to a Laserwriter on an Appletalk-Ethernet gatewayed net?
Yes.  There is one just down the hall from my office which I sometimes use.

>2. Can the Next feed from a Sun NFS server on Ethernet?
Yes.  My cube is both an NFS client and server.

>3. How tough is it to port from Next to Sun (using X, not NextStep of course)?
>   (I suppose this means "What are the main differences between the 2 Unixes?")
I'm not sure what you mean.  Are you trying to port "X" applications to
NeXT, or vanilla unix sources?  "X" is not shipped by NeXT, although a
3rd party "xnext" is available.  I've played with an X11R3 version and
found it quite buggy.  I haven't seen the X11R4 version yet, but rumors
have it that it is much better.  If you really mean "what is UNIX like?",
then you will find it very similar to any BSD unix.  I have ported lots of
stuff from SunOS to NeXT without even thinking about it.

>4. What applications would you see as replacing the following Mac applications:
Good question.  I am not a MAC user, so I will leave this to someone else.

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Marc Majka   System Manager   UBC Computer Science

daugher@cs.tamu.edu (Walter C. Daugherity) (12/16/90)

In article <1990Dec13.030626.6208@scrumpy@.bnr.ca> eric writes:
|
|0. Is there a Canadian 800 number where I could ask the Next 4 questions?

(800)848-NeXT should also work from Canada.
..
|2. Can the Next feed from a Sun NFS server on Ethernet?

Yes, we're doing it.
..
|4. What applications would you see as replacing the following Mac applications:
|
|     Mac                             Next
|     ---                             ----
|
|     Adobe Illustrator               Adobe Illustrator
|     Excel                           Improv
|     MacDraw                         ?
|     Kaleidagraph                    ?
|     Word                            WriteNow works fine, Word Perfect will be
|                                       on the NeXT soon
|     PageMaker                       Framemaker?
|     PowerPoint                      ?
|


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Texas A & M University			uucp: uunet!cs.tamu.edu!daugher
College Station, TX 77843-3112		BITNET: DAUGHER@TAMVENUS
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