[comp.sys.next] How to use Sybase?

anderson@sapir.cog.jhu.edu (Stephen R. Anderson) (12/31/90)

I got my cube from businessland, with OS1.0 installed on the HD. No
media from which to reinstall it. VERY little documentation. this
Sybase SQL server sounds like something interesting, but in my efforts
to get it working I have the feeling I'm playing zork.

(a) How do I get the server started, and once started, how do I
interact with it?

(b) In general, where is there any information about the interface
between SQL and the system?

(c) What's the chance that if I figure out how to use this thing, I'll
still be able to get something out of it when my 2.0 upgrade arrives?
I've heard (and contributed to) lots of discussion about the status of
lisp under 2.0, but I've seen very little little mention of the fate
of Sybase under tha new system (which doesn't bundle either, I
gather).

Steve Anderson

anderson@sapir.cog.jhu.edu (Stephen R. Anderson) (01/02/91)

Mea maxima culpissima. When I finally figured out hwere to go to RTFM,
I discovered that all the information I needed was there all along.

In the meantime, in my efforts to get SQL-server to work, I spent some
time reading the manuals, but everything referred to an Installation
Manual for directions on how to get it up in the first place. Not
having one, I eventually worked out what was going on by looking at
the various shell scripts, and got it up. Shortly after that, I found
the Release Notes file (to which there's no pointer in the
Documenation/Sybase directory), which is really the "Installationa
Manual". I'm consoled by the fact that if I'd just followed those
instructions, in fact it wouldn't have worked, for reasons that would
have taken me about as long to figure out as I had actually spent.

Anyway, my apologies for implying that the cube didn't come with
everything it was supposed to, or that BusinessLand (or NeXT)
short-changed me. Once you work out where things are, this machine
turns out to have an incredible range of stuff on it.

Oh, one more thing. There was a description in the latest NeXTAnswers
of what will happen with Sybase under 2.0. I'm still surprised not to
have heard more discussion of the (a) unbundling and (b)
incompatibility of the present SQL-server under 2.0. And does anyone
have a more recent projection of when the 4.0.1 server will actually
be ready? I'd hate to put the effort into figuring out how the thing
works, and then have my upgrade arrive and make that knowledge
useless...

Steve Anderson

rca@cs.brown.edu (Ronald C.F. Antony) (01/02/91)

As far as I know the state of the affair in regard to Sybase is the
following:

a) Sybase will be available in the same to 5 concurrent users limited
version more or less for free for all users of old and new systems.
However, it will not be part of the 2.0 software release but must be
requested from Sybase directly and costs a small handling and shipping
fee (whatever that means).

b) For current owner of old systems, the upgrade should be shipped
automatically as soon as the according registration cards for the
software upgrades are sent in. This card should work for Mathematica
and Sybase if I remember correctly (I already sent it in).

c) Lisp should be upgraded automatically for owners of the old OS, as
should be Mathematica. For owner of new systems none of these packages
are bundled anymore, except Mathematica for academic users.

If I should be wrong in any of the above, please let me know as I
intend to gfet upgrades for all the software mentioned above and would
be quite upset if one day I had to figure out I missed some deadline
waiting for upgrades to arrive...

Ronald
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