[comp.sys.next] some recent NeXT problems...

schoi@teri.bio.uci.edu (Sam "Lord Byron" Choi) (01/11/91)

DonUt use the file inspector to look at active files!

	I was working on WriteNow and just out of curiosity when 
I had finished the document I wanted to see how much disk 
space it would take up (I know for instance on the Macintosh, 
a Microsoft Word 4.0 will take significantly more disk space 
than a Microsoft Word 3.0 document if the files are small).  
So without closing the file from WriteNow, I switched to the 
Workspace, selected the file under the file browser and 
selected the Inspector under Tools.
	Well, I got the little spinning disk and thatUs all I 
ever got.  It wasnUt a complete hang.  By clicking on the 
WriteNow document in the background I could bring it to the 
foreground, but forget anything involving the disk.
	In other words I couldnUt even execute the Mach shell to 
kill the process.  In fact I couldnUt even power down -- the 
button wouldnUt respond.  I was about to pull the plug when I 
remembered that the command-tilde.
	I was about to do that when I came upon the idea of 
trying to login remotely so I told my roommate to try to 
login from his computer.  Interestingly enough that was 
allowed, and he killed off the processes from there.
	I had a feeling that trying to get info on an active 
file many not work, but I didnUt think it would effectively 
hang the computer.  ShouldnUt the operating system 
automatically trap these kinds of things and just give you an 
error message?

Another interesting problem...

	FSCK constantly destroys my files.  I got into the ROM 
monitor at boot and entered the system with BSD -S.  I did an 
FSCK just to see whether there were any problems.  It came up 
saying that a directory was corrupted and asked me whether I 
wanted to salvage it.  Of course I said yes.  Then it came up 
and asked me whether I wanted to relink some stray files.  I 
assumed the problem was because of the corrupted directory so 
I said yes.
	I rebooted, and the FSCK came up clean.  Cool.  So I 
exited single user mode and got into Workspace and I noticed 
that I had more free disk space!  RCool, maybe FSCK optimized 
my disk and recovered empty spaceS I thought.
	Looking around though, I noticed that a whole bunch of 
my files were gone.  Of course in that directory that was 
supposedly corrupted.  Fortunately I had a backup so I put 
them back on.
	I rebooted and got into the ROM monitor again, and again 
FSCK said that the same directory was corrupted.  I repeated 
the procedure and again my files were missing.
	I repeated it on more time.  This time only one file was 
deleted by FSCK.  Wonderful.  WhatUs going on?  Does anyone 
know?  It doesnUt seem to affect the operation of the system 
to have the RcorruptedS directory.  Should I just assume that 
FSCK is bullshitting me and never execute it?
	All the files in question were WriteNow documents.

Man, whenUs NextStep 2.01 coming out?

(sorry about the apostrophes...)
Sam