[net.auto] ABS

ijk@hou2a.UUCP (I.KINAL) (11/14/85)

I'm in the market for a new US car, and I'm really interested in ABS.
Since the implementation is fairly new, I wondering if anyone out there
yet has any experience.  On foreign cars, I know that Mercedes, BMW,AUDI,
and perhaps a Japanese car or two are starting to carry them.  On
US cars, last year the MARKVII had random availability; this year
GM is beginning to offer them in the following cars (to the best of
my knowledge, based on a recent IEEE Spectrum article:
Corvette: technology is apparently different than all other GM cars;
	presumably, then the technology on the others is standard
	ITT Teves, as we have seen advertised on TV in the past few months.
	
OLDS 98 (Unfortunately, not on the new Toronado; the 98 is not really
	sporty enough for me).
	
BUICK:  Electra and Le Sabre (haven't seen these yet).

Ponntiac 6000 STE:  I've seen these on the highway; they seemed a bit smaller
	than the 98, but I believe that if you equip them comparably,
	they price out the same; seem like less car for the money.
	
CADDILAC:  I believe one model (perhaps the Eldorado ???) will also
	have this system; but a bit rich for my tastes.

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If anyone knows of other GM cars that plan on introducing these
brakes, I would appreciate hearing of them.  Any options to pick
up or to avoid would also be interesting (the OLDS people will
apparently allow you to extend your warranty indefinitely (?) for
not too many dollars; is this worth it?? )

Thanx in advance,
Ihor Kinal
{hru3c | hou2a} ! ijk

gvcormack@watmum.UUCP (Gordon V. Cormack) (11/15/85)

> I'm in the market for a new US car, and I'm really interested in ABS.
> Since the implementation is fairly new, I wondering if anyone out there
> yet has any experience.  

Anti-lock braking is not particularly new.  Lowly Chrysler had such
a system as an option on the full-sized Imperial circa 1970.  I have
read the factory service manual, and the implementation was quite
good -- there was a separate vacuum servo at each wheel and a 
separate angular accelerometer at each wheel.

It seems to me that they missed (and are currently missing) the 
appropriate market segment.  In general, owners of these boats aren't
the slightest bit interested in performance.

rkd@ccice5.UUCP (Ray K. Downes) (11/18/85)

> > I'm in the market for a new US car, and I'm really interested in ABS.
> > Since the implementation is fairly new, I wondering if anyone out there
> > yet has any experience.  
> 
> It seems to me that they missed (and are currently missing) the 
> appropriate market segment.  In general, owners of these boats aren't
> the slightest bit interested in performance.
 
Pity, might be just what the larger cars need (to make up for a lack of
"control feel" - no reflection of the operator intended ..... really).