[comp.sys.next] Alternate Terminal apps?

rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) (02/23/91)

I use the NeXT to dial in to the office where we run Wyse 60s on most
ports.  I have an application for the Wyse 60 that uses uEmacs to display
different sorts of client data in different windows using the 43 line
capability of the Wyse.  Terminal doesn't do this, and I wouldn't be
able to read it if it could.  (Who selects these font sizes?  Must be
some 20 year old with great eyes!) Anyhow, the usefulness of the NeXT
for dialing the office is greatly diminished.  Are there other terminal
programs out there that can provide more lines of text and larger fonts?

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rca@cs.brown.edu (Ronald C.F. Antony) (02/23/91)

In article <1991Feb22.170142.10676@investor.pgh.pa.us> rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) writes:
>I use the NeXT to dial in to the office where we run Wyse 60s on most
>ports.  I have an application for the Wyse 60 that uses uEmacs to display
>different sorts of client data in different windows using the 43 line
>capability of the Wyse.  Terminal doesn't do this, and I wouldn't be
>able to read it if it could.  (Who selects these font sizes?  Must be

There should be no problem for that. e.g. on our SUNs I do the
following to get a nice big window remotly:

I resize my terminal window, log in with kermit, and then when at the
shell prompt, I do the following:

% set term=vt100
% stty rows 66

where 66 happens to be the number of lines that I'm using. So you
would have to resize the terminal window to 43 lines and use 43
instead of 66. There might be some different commands on the WYSE, but
there should be no problem in principle.

The font size you can alter with the font panel in 2.0 and with the
dwrite command in 1.0 (if I remember correctly like that):

% dwrite Terminal NXFixedPitchFontSize nn

where nn is the point size.

Ronald
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robertl@rlaferla.lotus.com (Robert La Ferla) (02/24/91)

The NeXT supplied Terminal.app will do exactly what you want it to.  I am
under the impression that you are running NeXTStep 1.0.  It really doesn't
matter but I am running 2.0.  All you need to do is:

1.	Determine which termcap entry you need for your terminal.  Are you
using 42 line mode or 42 line with status line.  I assume it is the latter
because you mentioned 43 lines in your message.

% grep -i wyse /etc/termcap | grep 42

# wyse-60 in 42 line mode
wO|w60-42|wyse60-42:\
# wyse 60 in 42 line mode with status line
wP|w60-42-s|wyse60-42-s:\

2.	Set your term variable in your .login to the termcap entry you
determined above.  If in doubt, type "man 5 termcap" for more information.

3.	Set your Preferences for Terminal to reflect the 42 or 43 lines.
This may be different depending on what version of NeXTStep you are running.
In any case, it's fairly simple.  Under 2.0, you should be able to set the
terminal size (rows and columns) via the graphic user interface.  (Select
Info->Preferences)  Under 1.0, you need to set a dwrite variable.  See

% dwrite Terminal Rows 43    				(or 42)

4.  If you want to change the font size, you must either set it via
Info->Preferences under 2.0 or with a dwrite under 1.0.  

The dwrite under 1.0 should be:

% dwrite Terminal NXFixedPitchFontSize nn	(where nn is the point size)

You also want a fixed font such as Courier or Ohlfs.

% dwrite Terminal NXFixedPitchFont Courier

Robert La Ferla
Lotus Development Corporation

rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) (03/06/91)

In article <65961@brunix.UUCP> rca@cs.brown.edu (Ronald C.F. Antony) writes:
>In article <1991Feb22.170142.10676@investor.pgh.pa.us> rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) writes:
>>I use the NeXT to dial in to the office where we run Wyse 60s on most
>>ports.  I have an application for the Wyse 60 that uses uEmacs to display
>>different sorts of client data in different windows using the 43 line
>>capability of the Wyse.
>
>I resize my terminal window, log in with kermit, and then when at the
>shell prompt, I do the following:
>
>% set term=vt100
>% stty rows 66

That must be a BSDism.  SysV doesn't recognize stty rows.

>The font size you can alter with the font panel in 2.0 and with the
>dwrite command in 1.0 (if I remember correctly like that):

That was useful information.  A number of people mentioned dwrite.
What I ended up doing was setting up a bigscreen Terminal and modifying
termcap and terminfo on the SysV machine to get a 43 line vt100.
Everything worked fine.
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hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy)) (03/14/91)

it should be setenv LINES 66; 
I use this both in tcsh and csh when logging in from my NeXT to the
HP-9000/370-345 in my office.


Hardy 
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