[comp.sys.next] Questions from NeW NeXTer

jcargill@oka.cs.wisc.edu (Jon Cargille) (03/16/91)

Couple of quick questions from a NeW NeXT user...  ;) I too was lucky
enough to snarf a BL demo cube.  :) ** (ear-ear).

  1) OD noise -- My OD sounds like it is related to the gatling guns
		 of old.  Is this normal?  Not having used an OD-only
		 system before, I may well just be unaccustomed to
		 it...  I can live with it; I just want to be sure
		 it's not something I should be worrying about.

  2) rz/sz -- Ok.  I've downloaded these, and wish to use Zmodem
              protocol for file transfers to/from at unix box at
              school (which has rz/sz also).  This may sound dumb, but
              how do I do it??  I've tried logging in with Kermit,
              issuing a Sz (send) command on the remote host, quiting
              kermit, and issuing:

		rz < /dev/cua > /dev/cua.

              This doesn't seem to work.  How are others out there
              using Zmodem?

  3) tip problems -- I set up tip with no problems.  However, I don't
                     seem to be able to get the ~< ~> ~t or ~p to
                     work.  These seem to hang tip.  Am I doing
                     something stupid?  

                     Also, in the same vein, after hanging tip and
                     killing it with ^C, is there any way to get
                     another 'tip' session to connect to the modem
                     without trying to dial, or 'synchronize' with the
                     modem by sending commands to it?  After tip
                     hangs, I am able to reconnect with kermit, but
                     not tip.  Hmmm....


Any information would be appreciated.  Please respond via email, and
I'll summarize.   Apologies if these questions sound stupid; I'm not a
Unix-neophyte, just a Unix-communications-neophyte...  ;)

Thanks,

Jon Cargille
jon@cs.wisc.edu

garnett@cs.utexas.edu (John William Garnett) (03/16/91)

In article <1991Mar15.173412.22124@spool.cs.wisc.edu> jcargill@oka.cs.wisc.edu (Jon Cargille) writes:
]
]Couple of quick questions from a NeW NeXT user...  ;) I too was lucky
]enough to snarf a BL demo cube.  :) ** (ear-ear).
]
]  1) OD noise -- My OD sounds like it is related to the gatling guns
]		 of old.  Is this normal?  Not having used an OD-only

Unfortunately, this is normal.  Maybe we ought to bring back old
time radio... we could use the optical for machine-gun sounds effects :-).

]  2) rz/sz -- Ok.  I've downloaded these, and wish to use Zmodem
]              protocol for file transfers to/from at unix box at
]              school (which has rz/sz also).  This may sound dumb, but
]              how do I do it??  I've tried logging in with Kermit,
]              issuing a Sz (send) command on the remote host, quiting
]              kermit, and issuing:

I use zmodem by logging in with tip and using the ~$ command.
You need to get versions of sz and rz that support the -1 option.
You should also create a .tiprc that includes the command that
causes tip to use a Bourne shell subshell when it runs sz or rz.
Using the default csh causes complaints about permissions of
some sort.

]  3) tip problems -- I set up tip with no problems.  However, I don't
]                     seem to be able to get the ~< ~> ~t or ~p to
]                     work.  These seem to hang tip.  Am I doing
]                     something stupid?  

I've seen the same behavior under 2.0.

-- 
John Garnett
                              University of Texas at Austin
garnett@cs.utexas.edu         Department of Computer Science
                              Austin, Texas