audley@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Christopher D Audley) (03/26/91)
I recently moved all my development off of a Sun SPARCstation onto a newly aquired NeXTstation. After moving all of my source code over to the NeXT and returning the SPARC ( it was on loan ) I've discovered that my NeXT appears to be missing the SCCS utilities. I did a find on my hard drive ( 400 MB extended release ) and can't find it. I must have these utilities, all of my work is in SCCS libraries. Is there any way to get them for the NeXT ( preferably at no/low cost, I'm $5000 in the hole )? Why doesn't the NeXT have SCCS. I was under the impression this was a standard part of Unix. Even if it isn't a standard Unix feature, why does NeXT, a machine with reputation as a great development environment, lack it. I also have a question about my hard drive. From listening to this news group, I expected it to be almost silent. However, mine makes a soft, clearly audible, clicking noise. Is there anything wrong with it? It actually is not as loud as most PC hard drives, but I was expecting about as much noise as my roommates Mac IIsi makes (none). Finally, I'd like to add my own kudos to the UMD Computer Emporium. When I received my NeXT, the monitor cable was bad, so they gave me the one off their demo machine. C.D.Audley
ddh@ombrage.mi.org (Dave Hale) (03/26/91)
In article <7820@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU> audley@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Christopher D Audley) writes: > >Why doesn't the NeXT have SCCS. I was under the impression this was a >standard part of Unix. Even if it isn't a standard Unix feature, why >does NeXT, a machine with reputation as a great development environment, >lack it. > SysV versions of UN*X use SCCS, on bsd systems (at least in my experience) you use RCS which is included on the NeXT. When you were using the Sparc the SCCS stuff was probably from /usr/5bin or was ported over. If you do a man on rcsintro(1) it should give you the neccessary info. The noise that your drive makes is probably just the heads seeking. If it only makes it while it is reading/writing data then it should be of no concern. I've heard the the official NeXT drives (Maxtors?) are very quiet. I'm running a Fujitsu which is pretty noisy while it runs. Have fun! - Dave -- Dave Hale ddh@orage.mi.org - Can alse accept NeXT mail at this address. ddh@ombrage.mi.org - Regular mail only, please.
bennett@mp.cs.niu.edu (Scott Bennett) (03/26/91)
In article <1991Mar26.025056.18064@ombrage.mi.org> ddh@ombrage.mi.org (Dave Hale) writes: >In article <7820@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU> audley@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Christopher D Audley) writes: >> >>Why doesn't the NeXT have SCCS. I was under the impression this was a >>standard part of Unix. Even if it isn't a standard Unix feature, why >>does NeXT, a machine with reputation as a great development environment, >>lack it. >> > > SysV versions of UN*X use SCCS, on bsd systems (at least in my experience) >you use RCS which is included on the NeXT. When you were using the Sparc the sccs(1) is also included in 4.3BSD. RCS is not, though it is freely available. If it is missing in the NeXT distribution (I haven't looked), then NeXT should either distribute it or explain the omission. sccs(1) is indeed one of those things that one has, for years, been able to count on in both SysV and BSD varieties of UNIX. >SCCS stuff was probably from /usr/5bin or was ported over. If you do a man >on rcsintro(1) it should give you the neccessary info. > > [text deleted --SJB] > - Dave > >-- >Dave Hale ddh@orage.mi.org - Can alse accept NeXT mail at this address. > ddh@ombrage.mi.org - Regular mail only, please. > Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG Systems Programming Northern Illinois University DeKalb, Illinois 60115 ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett@cs.niu.edu * * BITNET: A01SJB1@NIU * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "Well, I don't know, but I've been told, in the heat of the sun * * a man died of cold..." Oakland, 19 Feb. 1991, first time since * * 25 Sept. 1970!!! Yippee!!!! Wondering what's NeXT... :-) * **********************************************************************
rob@lighthouse.com (Rob Kedoin) (03/26/91)
I believe SCCS was written by AT&T and that SCCS comes as standard on System V UNIX systems. I believe you can *buy* SCCS from AT&T for a significant price. Most people I've spoken to have been using RCS to manage change control on their documents. RCS provides a tool, "sccstorcs" to allow people to convert their files from the SCCS format into the RCS format. The latest version of RCS is 5.5 and is available for anonymous ftp from arthur.cs.purdue.edu in their pub/RCS directory or from uunet.uu.net in their pub/gnu directory. One great advantage of this version of RCS is that, when combined with GNU Diff, you can place binary files, like .nibs and .tiffs, under change control. Rob Kedoin rob@lighthouse.com Lighthouse Design, Ltd 6516 Western Avenue Chevy Chase, MD 20815