dhg@sinix.UUCP (David Griffith) (03/27/91)
Apparantly Steve Jobs is fond of glancing at people's products and pronouncing "That's shit!". Well can I be the first to complain that the online technical documentation supplied with 2.0 is shit? I'm surprised no-one has pointed this out before, but there is NO introductory developers documentation supplied with the system. So here I am with my nice shiny new cube and state-of-the-art software tools (NeXTStep, Interface Builder, Objective C, DSP) and I don't know how to use it! What documentation there is is very low level. Apparantly NeXT do have printed technical documentation in the pipeline but it's not available yet and no-one knows when it will be. So come on NeXT, pull your finger out. This is an appalling omission in an otherwise excellent product. Dave Griffiths
wln@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (William L Nussbaum) (03/28/91)
In article <1991Mar27.104146.12808@sinix.UUCP> dhg@sinix.UUCP (David Griffith) writes: > >I'm surprised no-one has pointed this out before, but there is NO >introductory developers documentation supplied with the system. So >here I am with my nice shiny new cube and state-of-the-art software >tools (NeXTStep, Interface Builder, Objective C, DSP) and I don't >know how to use it! What documentation there is is very low level. > >Apparantly NeXT do have printed technical documentation in the >pipeline but it's not available yet and no-one knows when it will be. > NeXT received its copies of the technical documentation ($95 a set) about a week or two ago. IThey said, however, when I called the 800848NeXT number, that it would take about three months for all the currently backordered sets of manuals to reach the people who bought them. This includes the "Concepts" manuals that are missing from the on-line distribution. | William Lee Nussbaum, Jr. | CI$: 72401.3554@compuserve.com | WELL: wlnjr@well.sf.ca.us | InterNet: wln@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos) (03/29/91)
I noticed that the "Concepts" documentations is available on sonata.cc.purdue.edu in the /pub/next/docs directory, along with a new set of Next Answers. This might be a big help to those that don't have the 1.0 docs available to them. louie
squirk@pedsga.UUCP (Steve Quirk <squirk>) (03/29/91)
In article <1991Mar27.104146.12808@sinix.UUCP> dhg@sinix.UUCP (David Griffith) writes: > ...........[ valid complaints about lacking documentation deleted....] >So come on NeXT, pull your finger out. This is an appalling ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gee, my uncle would always pull this gag on me; "Pull my finger", he would say. And when I did, he would..., oh, nevermind. :-) :-) Steve Quirk Concurrent Computer Corp (908)758-7207
dennisg@kgw2.bwi.WEC.COM (Dennis Glatting) (03/29/91)
In article <1991Mar27.104146.12808@sinix.UUCP>, dhg@sinix.UUCP (David Griffith) writes: |> Apparantly Steve Jobs is fond of glancing at people's products and |> pronouncing "That's shit!". Well can I be the first to complain |> that the online technical documentation supplied with 2.0 is shit? |> |> I'm surprised no-one has pointed this out before, but there is NO |> introductory developers documentation supplied with the system. So |> here I am with my nice shiny new cube and state-of-the-art software |> tools (NeXTStep, Interface Builder, Objective C, DSP) and I don't |> know how to use it! What documentation there is is very low level. |> |> Apparantly NeXT do have printed technical documentation in the |> pipeline but it's not available yet and no-one knows when it will be. |> |> So come on NeXT, pull your finger out. This is an appalling |> omission in an otherwise excellent product. |> calm down. I and my team have been writing software for NeXTs for 18 months. It is true that there should be a 2.0 concepts manual readily available but there is not. the 1.0 stuff gives one a good starting point and probably covers much of the stuff in 2.0. i've found excellent documentation on-line. for example the appkit, zones, and others. certainly the lack of docs is stiffling but, being a developer that uses leading edge technology, i have encountered this problem with other products as well but it rarely stops me. -- ..!uunet!kgw2!dennisg | Dennis P. Glatting dennisg@Xetron.COM | X2NeXT developer | NeXT/C++/Objective-C wienie