gchunt%albion.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Galen Hunt) (01/18/91)
What is included in the '040 upgrade for the cubes. I assume that it includes the '040 board and a OD with the Release 2.0 software, but does it come with the 2.8MB floppy. If not, is the floppy going to be available as an option?
Ray_Davison@cc.sfu.ca (01/18/91)
In article <1991Jan17.113803.11637@hellgate.utah.edu> gchunt%albion.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Galen Hunt) writes: >What is included in the '040 upgrade for the cubes. I assume that it >includes the '040 board and a OD with the Release 2.0 software, but >does it come with the 2.8MB floppy. If not, is the floppy going to be >available as an option? > The 040 upgrade and the 2.0 software upgrade are separate items. You could get the software upgrade without the hardware upgrade, but you need the new software with the new hardware. There is no 2.8MB floppy upgrade for the cube available from NeXT. You have to buy it from a third party. The 040 upgrade does include a filter for the OD (finally). Mine arrived too late. I hadn't used the optical for months, and now that I need it to do the software upgrade (which I need for the hardware upgrade) my optical is dead. The good thing is that this is the first time my cube has needed service since I got it over two years ago.
ifjrs@acad3.alaska.edu (STANNARD JOHN R) (03/21/91)
The '040 board and version 2.0 that I ordered Oct. 4, 1990 ARRIVED yesterday afternoon; it was shipped ONE day before the changeover to 2.1. Haven't unpacked the stuff yet, but next week is Spring Break...:) John -- John Stannard ifjrs@acad3.fai.alaska.edu BITNET: IFJRS@ALASKA KL7JL@KL7JL.AK.USA.NA kl7jl.ampr.org [44.22.0.1] "God is the Answer!" "Oh?? ... er, ... What was the Question?" --
kls30@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (Kent L Shephard) (04/10/91)
Well my '040 upgrade is here. Total 8 week turnaround, not great, not
bad. Just long enough for you to be impatient and short enough so you
don't cancel the order.
Now here's the problem I now have a $1000 piece of worthless hardware.
You see someone neglected to ship my 2.0/2.1 optical disk. My upgrade
board is totally useless until I get my software. Why the hell send the
hardware if you don't ship the software needed to run the hardware?
Am I missing something? I don't think so, but if I am let me know.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh! I'm in HELL. I'm being tortured. I can see my upgrade
but I can't use it. Somebody, anybody, save me.
Now that I have that out of my system. I hope my optical disk with 2.1,
that's right I don't want 2.0 now that 2.1 is shipping, will arive soon.
Until then I think I'll just look at the new '040 board and pray that I'll
be able to use it soon.
Now let's see how long my 2.0 technical documentation takes to arrive.
I ordered it about 2-3 weeks ago.
KeNT - I'll be satisfied when my optical disk gets here.
But then, I may never be satisfied.
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/* Kent L. Shephard : email - kls30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com */kls30@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (Kent L Shephard) (04/11/91)
Update on why NeXT send '040 hardware with no 2.0 software. It turns out that my campus bookstore places hardware and software orders on seperate P.O.s this means that my 2.0 optical disk upgrade was put on the same order as 2.0 extended release on floppies. My bookstore further stated that they would like to have complete orders shipped. This means that my 2.0 optical disk would not arrive until the floppies did. This is not good at all. So the fact that my hardware arrived and not the software is the fault of my campus bookstore and NOT NeXT Inc. NeXT did state after the bookstore called them that they were going to ship that today and get it out ASAP. Mind you I asked the people at the bookstore to call yesterday afternoon. They did not. They called after I went down there today, physically and told them "It is only one phone call, make it." I stood there whle they called and got answers. Hopefully I'll have my upgrade by Friday or Monday. Also I purchased the hardware today. I don't really trust my good old reliable bookstore anymore. -- /* -The opinions expressed are my own, not my employers. */ /* For I can only express my own opinions. */ /* */ /* Kent L. Shephard : email - kls30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com */
osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn) (04/11/91)
In article <ad0y02uI06zI01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> kls30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Kent L. Shephard) writes: [Stuff deleted] >Also I purchased the hardware today. I don't really trust my good old >reliable bookstore anymore. >/* Kent L. Shephard : email - kls30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com */ Never, ever, ever, trust a University. - -John H. Osborn -osborn@cs.utexas.edu
tjb@IceCube.unh.edu (Thomas J. Baker) (04/12/91)
In article <a93f02rR066T01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> kls30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Kent L. Shephard) writes: >Well my '040 upgrade is here. Total 8 week turnaround, not great, not >bad. Just long enough for you to be impatient and short enough so you >don't cancel the order. > >Now here's the problem I now have a $1000 piece of worthless hardware. >You see someone neglected to ship my 2.0/2.1 optical disk. My upgrade >board is totally useless until I get my software. Why the hell send the >hardware if you don't ship the software needed to run the hardware? >Am I missing something? I don't think so, but if I am let me know. > >Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh! I'm in HELL. I'm being tortured. I can see my upgrade >but I can't use it. Somebody, anybody, save me. > ...stuff deleted... >/* Kent L. Shephard : email - kls30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com */ I ordered my upgrade from MIT the same week I got my BL firesale cube, last November. I have called an average of once a week, starting in late February. I got pretty close back in mid-March, when there were two left, but one was DOA. I am "next on the list" with the possibility of another shipment "in the next two weeks." Sometimes I think I should be more upset (with who?) but my '030 1.0a cube is still (personally speaking) better than any Mac, DECstation, or anything else I've used, excepting maybe an '040 2.1 cube. So I wait patiently, knowing that when it arrives, it will be worth the wait. It wouldn't be so bad if all the new software everyone was writing still worked under 1.0a, but on the bright side, it will make the upgrade arrival even more rewarding. Still waiting... tjb -- ____________________________________________________________________________ | INTERNET: tjb@IceCube.unh.edu USPS: Thomas Baker | | USENET: uunet!IceCube.unh.edu!tjb P.O. Box 213 | | NeXT: tjb@IceCube.unh.edu Durham, NH 03824 |
bennett@mp.cs.niu.edu (Scott Bennett) (04/12/91)
In article <19111@cs.utexas.edu> osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn) writes: >In article <ad0y02uI06zI01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> kls30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Kent L. Shephard) writes: >[Stuff deleted] >>Also I purchased the hardware today. I don't really trust my good old >>reliable bookstore anymore. >>/* Kent L. Shephard : email - kls30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com */ > >Never, ever, ever, trust a University. Absolutely, at least w.r.t. state universities, and I would consider that admonition deficient inasmuch as it stops short of including all other government bureaucracies. Unlike NeXT :-), their continued existence is completely independent of their reputations. > >- >-John H. Osborn >-osborn@cs.utexas.edu Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG Systems Programming Northern Illinois University DeKalb, Illinois 60115 ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett@cs.niu.edu * * BITNET: A01SJB1@NIU * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "Well, I don't know, but I've been told, in the heat of the sun * * a man died of cold..." Oakland, 19 Feb. 1991, first time since * * 25 Sept. 1970!!! Yippee!!!! Wondering what's NeXT... :-) * **********************************************************************
anderson@dogie.macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) (04/12/91)
In article <1991Apr12.025746.30048@mp.cs.niu.edu> bennett@mp.cs.niu.edu (Scott Bennett) writes: >In article <19111@cs.utexas.edu> osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn) writes: >>Never, ever, ever, trust a University. >Absolutely, at least w.r.t. state universities, and I would >consider that admonition deficient inasmuch as it stops short of >including all other government bureaucracies. Unlike NeXT :-), >their continued existence is completely independent of their >reputations. My goodness, all these cynics lurking about. The primary focus of all large organizations -- and of most small ones -- is to continue themselves in existence, which if I apply it to myself seems not at all unreasonable. I agree with you about entities like NeXT, which will quickly disappear if they screw up too massively. Neither governments nor major corporations -- especially banks -- are subject to such "corrections," for they depend on you and me to buy up their mistakes. But one can try to maintain a cheerful outlook nevertheless, t'was ever thus, in one way or another. :-) <> Ours is a world where people don't know what they want and <> are willing to go through hell to get it. -- Don Marquis -- Jess Anderson <> Madison Academic Computing Center <> University of Wisconsin Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu <-best, UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson NeXTmail w/attachments: anderson@yak.macc.wisc.edu Bitnet: anderson@wiscmacc Room 3130 <> 1210 West Dayton Street / Madison WI 53706 <> Phone 608/262-5888
waltrip@capd.jhuapl.edu (04/13/91)
In article <1991Apr12.025746.30048@mp.cs.niu.edu>, bennett@mp.cs.niu.edu (Scott Bennett) writes: > In article <19111@cs.utexas.edu> osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn) writes: >>In article <ad0y02uI06zI01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> kls30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Kent L. Shephard) writes: [...material deleted...] >> >>Never, ever, ever, trust a University. Unless experience indicates otherwise. In the interest of encouraging continued good conduct, it's probably good to give credit where credit is due and I have had entirely satisfactory dealings with the University of Maryland Computer Emporium and have seen other posts in this newsgroup that indicated satisfactory experiences with sales (and service) there. > > Absolutely, at least w.r.t. state universities, and I would > consider that admonition deficient inasmuch as it stops short of > including all other government bureaucracies. Unlike NeXT :-), > their continued existence is completely independent of their > reputations. Well, I've even had generally good experiences with the USPS (so maybe I'm atypical) and I've had some pretty bad experiences with commercial enterprises (some of which have indeed NOT experienced a continued existence but, then, even bureaucracies aren't all that secure nowadays) so I guess I'd say be wary but also don't write anyone off out of hand. c.f.waltrip Internet: <waltrip@capsrv.jhuapl.edu> Opinions expressed are my own.