[comp.sys.next] Help with TIP, please.

smk5@quads.uchicago.edu (stephen mortimer kramarsky) (04/26/91)

Hi all,
  I'm a neophyte unixer (Unich?) with what is probably a very simple
problem.  I've got my 040 slab here (running 2.0) and I've got some
nifty binaries I FTP'd on a remote host.  I can hook up to the host
ok through my modem using TIP, but I can't seem to transfer the files
from the host to my actual machine.  Mach doesn't seem to have the
programs that might be useful for this, I think their called xs and xr
for xmodem send and receive (?) so I'm stuck.  

 I'm sure I'm just missing something, but ~t, which the TIP man pages say you
use to take files from a remote host, doesn't seem to do much more than generate
a lot of muck on the screen.  (I've tried rawftp both on and off.)

 I hope this makes senes, it's really getting me down!  I'd use Kermit, but
that's what I'm trying to get!!  Here I am with all this great stuff in my
mainframe account and no software to get it to my micro where I can use it!

 Arrrgh! And thanks in advance,

  Steve Kramarsky  smk5@quads.uchicago.edu
  [ Gee, doesn't this Bozo even have a .sig? ]

  P.S. I checked the FAQ, so please don't ask.  Thanks.

smk5@quads.uchicago.edu (stephen mortimer kramarsky) (04/27/91)

 I posted this yesterday and have gotten many kind hand helpful responses
and NO FLAMES!!

 Thanks to everyone I now have the problem taken care of.

 I have never seen such a kind and civil bunch of netters.  I used to read
news in the eighties (when it was ARPA) and there is no question that this
is a "kinder gentler" network than it was then.  Sorry for the bandwidth,
but I had to compliment everyone.

    Again, thanx for the help,
        Steve Kramarsky  SMK5@midway.uchicago.edu

scott@mcs-server.gac.edu (Scott Hess) (04/27/91)

In article <1991Apr26.064142.12779@midway.uchicago.edu> smk5@quads.uchicago.edu (stephen mortimer kramarsky) writes:
     I'm a neophyte unixer (Unich?) with what is probably a very simple
   problem.  I've got my 040 slab here (running 2.0) and I've got some
   nifty binaries I FTP'd on a remote host.  I can hook up to the host
   ok through my modem using TIP, but I can't seem to transfer the files
   from the host to my actual machine.  Mach doesn't seem to have the
   programs that might be useful for this, I think their called xs and xr
   for xmodem send and receive (?) so I'm stuck.  

    I hope this makes senes, it's really getting me down!  I'd use Kermit, but
   that's what I'm trying to get!!  Here I am with all this great stuff in my
   mainframe account and no software to get it to my micro where I can use it!

The standard way I get a non-connected (ie, non-ethernet connected)
machine up and running with kermit and x/y/zmodem is to transfer
the files by uuencoding them, catting the result to the Terminal
or Stuart window, copying that out to an Edit document, save it,
uudecode it, voila!

To save transfer time, you'll probably want to compress the files
(use compress, of course) before uuencoding them.  To verify
that the files are close to what they originally were, I usually
use the sum command and make sure the sums match at both ends.

Once you've got this down, grab x/y/zmodem from just about anywhere.
I'd be amazed and appalled if uunet.uu.net didn't have them.  Otherwise,
rlogin or telnet to archie - quiche.cs.mcgill.ca, username archie.
Then, type 'prog xmodem' and you should end up with more xmodems
than you care to work with . . .

If you need more, drop me a line!

Later,
--
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