silbar@mpx2.lampf.lanl.gov (SILBAR, RICHARD R.) (04/30/91)
I recently got WordPerfect installed, finally. Has anyone else noticed that you can't (i.e., I can't) set the font in the Font Panel to come out in greeks and math in the text window? So, other than going painfully into the extended character fonts and doing things 1 character at a time, how does one type equations efficiently? Along these same lines, I seem to recall seeing a PC version of WordPerfect that had a very nice Equation Interface (sort of like Draw with a palette and stuff); there appears not to be any such thing with the NeXT version. Dick Silbar
cnh5730@maraba.tamu.edu (04/30/91)
In article <22853@lanl.gov> silbar@mpx2.lampf.lanl.gov (SILBAR, RICHARD R.) writes:
I recently got WordPerfect installed, finally.
and then writes
I seem
to recall seeing a PC version of WordPerfect that had a very nice
Equation Interface (sort of like Draw with a palette and stuff); there
appears not to be any such thing with the NeXT version.
Isn't the equation package part of WP 5.1? The WP for the NeXT is
version 5.0.
--
"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster,
and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."
-Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
sritchie@cs.ubc.ca (Stuart Ritchie) (04/30/91)
I haven't played with the Math stuff, so I can't comment on that. But I have tried printing, and boy is it slow. I'd say it's about 10 times slower than printing from any other program. And that doesn't include graphics. On the 8MB slab I use, printing a 5 page document drove the load up beyond 6.00. And it seemed to take forever. Also, on some occasions, it has printed duplicate pages, out of order pages and does strange stuff with graphics sometimes. For example, I had a page with an EPS graphic imported from Diagram. The page was printed without the graphic, followed by the graphic on its own blank page. And then pages that already had been printed started coming out. One time I was notified of PostScript errors. I this case, the document also had an EPS graphic included. Without the graphic, the document printed fine. And within Diagram, the graphic printed fine. Putting them together in WordPerfect produced flakey PS code. And what's worse -- I was unable to duplicate the problem. Despite these problems I have experienced, I will definitely continue to use the program. For my use, the graphics capabilities alone are worth it over WriteNow. Maybe they're bugs, or maybe I'm just out in left field. ..Stuart
cnh5730@maraba.tamu.edu (04/30/91)
In article <1991Apr29.202315.13781@cs.ubc.ca> sritchie@cs.ubc.ca (Stuart Ritchie) writes:
I haven't played with the Math stuff, so I can't comment on that.
But I have tried printing, and boy is it slow.
fixed in 2.1
k
--
"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster,
and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."
-Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
streib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Allan Streib) (04/30/91)
In article <CNH5730.91Apr29140903@maraba.tamu.edu> cnh5730@maraba.tamu.edu writes: >Isn't the equation package part of WP 5.1? The WP for the NeXT is >version 5.0. I don't know what version WP is avail for NeXT, but it is correct that equations were added in 5.1 in the PC version. -Allan
hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy)) (04/30/91)
Postscript printing in Wordperfect (particularly with graphics) is slow on PC's and Macintoshes too. I have only seen a demo in NeXT and Dick Silbar's objection (missing greek-math mode) will make me think twice before I sepnd any money on it. Back to emacs+TeX ? Greetings, Hardy -------****------- Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy); Department of Physics, University of California Irvine CA 92717; (714) 856 5543; hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu or MMAYER@UCI.BITNET
dan@gacvx2.gac.edu (05/01/91)
In article <CNH5730.91Apr29140903@maraba.tamu.edu>, cnh5730@maraba.tamu.edu writes: > In article <22853@lanl.gov> silbar@mpx2.lampf.lanl.gov (SILBAR, RICHARD R.) writes: > I recently got WordPerfect installed, finally. > > and then writes > > I seem > to recall seeing a PC version of WordPerfect that had a very nice > Equation Interface (sort of like Draw with a palette and stuff); there > appears not to be any such thing with the NeXT version. > > Isn't the equation package part of WP 5.1? The WP for the NeXT is > version 5.0. > > -- > "Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, > and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." > -Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche Here is the story as I heard it at a NeXT users group meeting right after WP for the NeXT came out. It is probably partially true. WP for the NeXT is compatable with the 5.0 version on the PC. It has features similar to the 5.0 version and is file compatable with 5.0 and for the most part with 5.1. If a 5.1 file is read by NeXT WP the features that it does not support will be retained in the document but not displayed in editable format, if it can be displayed at all. The missing features return when the document reaches a version of a document that does support it. Version 5.0 introduced a new file format that could be extended without causing problems for older versions. A completely 5.1 compatable version of WP would be released after the work on the other UNIX versions of WP caught up with the current releases on other platforms. We were all told that WP is trying to bring all their platforms to roughly the same point to provide a seemless multi-vendor electronic office. -- Dan Boehlke Internet: dan@gac.edu Campus Network Manager BITNET: dan@gacvax1.bitnet Gustavus Adolphus College St. Peter, MN 56082 USA Phone: (507)933-7596
bb@math.ufl.edu (Brian Bartholomew) (05/01/91)
In article <CNH5730.91Apr29140903@maraba.tamu.edu> cnh5730@maraba.tamu.edu writes: >> Isn't the equation package part of WP 5.1? The WP for the NeXT is >> version 5.0. In article <1991Apr30.003844.21106@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> streib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Allan Streib) writes: > I don't know what version WP is avail for NeXT, but it is correct that > equations were added in 5.1 in the PC version. I've played with WP for the NeXT on an '030 cube and I give it a double thumbs-down. It claims to be version "1.0" so who knows exactly what features it contains. I loaded the PC 5.1 printer test file and noticed that most, but not all, of the items on that page were displayed correctly. Also, it was unbelievably slow. Running the PC version of 5.1 under a beta copy of SoftPC was arguably faster than running the native NeXT version. When I clicked below the scroll bar to show me the bottom third of the page on the single-page printer test document, it took *seconds* to scroll. My vote? Stick to WriteNow and Framemaker. -- "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brian Bartholomew UUCP: ...gatech!uflorida!beach.cis.ufl.edu!bb University of Florida Internet: bb@math.ufl.edu