[comp.sys.next] NeXT printer

asd@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Kareth) (10/22/90)

Is there anybody out there who has a NeXT laser printer, low mileage,
for sale cheap?  IE: < $1000.  I'm in market, possibly, if the price
is right.

Also, along the same lines, are there any < $1000 PostScript printers
out there that you could recommend?  Maybe used.

Thanks.

-k

herndon@sctc.com (William R. Herndon) (10/22/90)

asd@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Kareth) writes:

>Is there anybody out there who has a NeXT laser printer, low mileage,
>for sale cheap?  IE: < $1000.  I'm in market, possibly, if the price
>is right.

>Also, along the same lines, are there any < $1000 PostScript printers
>out there that you could recommend?  Maybe used.

    
    With the price of the NeXT laser printer down around $1200, I don't 
    know why one would want to buy a used one.  Is staying under $1000
    that important?

    As to PostScript printers under a $1000 in general:  The only alternative
    I think that you'll find is to purchase the HP II-P, or a cheap HP 
    compatible like Epson EPL-6000, and buy a PostScript cartridge for 
    it.  I don't have any experience with PostScipt cartridges, though.
    


								- Max

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herndon@sctc.com (William R. Herndon) (10/22/90)

herndon@sctc.com (William R. Herndon) writes:

>    
>    With the price of the NeXT laser printer down around $1200, I don't 
>    know why one would want to buy a used one.  Is staying under $1000
>    that important?

    Whoops!  I should have pointed out that it is under $1300 with an 
    educational discount.  Sorry.

 								- Max

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asd@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Kareth) (10/22/90)

In <1990Oct21.195713.11707@sctc.com> herndon@sctc.com (William R. Herndon) writes:

>asd@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Kareth) writes:

>>Is there anybody out there who has a NeXT laser printer, low mileage,
>>for sale cheap?  IE: < $1000.  I'm in market, possibly, if the price
>>is right.

>>Also, along the same lines, are there any < $1000 PostScript printers
>>out there that you could recommend?  Maybe used.

>    With the price of the NeXT laser printer down around $1200, I don't 
>    know why one would want to buy a used one.  Is staying under $1000
>    that important?

Yes, especially when you are on a limited budget.  Every penny counts.
If I can save $2-400, then that's all that much money I have to spend
on memory or such.  I specified under $1000 as it was convient.  After
all, if it's over, then it's just as easy to buy a new one.  I wanted
to include as wide a range of people who might want to sell one.  If
anybody wants to sell one for half of that, and it's in good shape,
I'll put my money down for it right now almost (after my next
paycheck).

Please no comments about the price.  I just want to find a good, CHEAP
used printer.  If you have one, and are interested in selling, contact
me, if not, just ignore the above.

woo@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Alex Woo RAA) (05/03/91)

Here are the results of a PostScript benchmark we recently
posted to comp.laser-printers and comp.periphs.printers.
As you can see, the new NeXT is pretty fast.  Perhaps we
should drop this NeXT Terminal discussion and the monitor
altogether and suggest that NeXT just sell a printer...  :-)

			LaserDoctor Results

PRINTER                 VERSION TIME    SUBMITTER
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Agfa P3400PS            48.1     23.886 martin@typeset.ulcc.ac.uk
Apple LaserWriter Plus  38.0    113.474 martin@typeset.ulcc.ac.uk
Apple LaserWriter Plus  38.0    115.064 Carmicha@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov
Apple LaserWriter II NT 47.0     62.006 Carmicha@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov
Apple LaserWriter II NT 47.0     81.798 glewis@fws204.intel.com
Apple LaserWriter IINTX 47.0     21.856 jjwcmp@ultb.isc.rit.edu
DEC Printserver 40      48.3      9.29  Carmicha@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov
DEC Printserver 20      48.3     25.9   glewis@fws204.intel.com
DEC Scriptprinter       47.2     59.33  kosower@fnal.fnal.gov
DEC Scriptprinter       47.2     59.432 dayhoff@ddnvx1.af.mil
DEC VAXStation 3100   1006.5     20.864 dayhoff@ddnvx1.af.mil
Ghostscript Sparc 2      2.1.1   13.6   jknowles@trident.arc.nasa.gov
Ghostscript SUN 3/280    2.1     16.34  russ@artsci.toronto.edu
HP LJ II                52.3     81.832 jcm@naperville.att.com
HP LJ IIP w Adobe PS             70.035 lilianstrom@fnal.bitnet
HP LJ III w Pac CE270    2.28   345.8   panda%dad@whgsu.att.com
HP LJ III w Adobe PS    52.2     73.765 dbraun@ira.uka.de
HP LJ III w Adobe PS    52.2     65.49  ericrot@rosevax.rosemount.com
HP LJ IIIsi                       5.614 lilianstrom@krang.fnal.gov
HP PS Jet+              46.1     84.56  colsa,inc.  Huntsville
Imagen Ultra 5.0TIP/II  14.1     50.864 thomas@wk213.nas.nasa.gov
Lino L300/RIP II(1270)  51.8     25.646 martin@typeset.ulcc.ac.uk
Lino L300/RIP 4 (1270)  51.8     20.745 jjwcmp@ultb.isc.rit.edu
Newgen TurboPS 400      47.0      8.53  dbraun@ira.uka.de
NeXT 1.0a '030        1006.24     9.344 Woo@ames.arc.nasa.gov
NeXT 2.0  '040        2000.6      2.272 jchin@van-bc.wimsey.bc.ca
QMS-PS 2000             52.4      1.903 qmsseq!lyle
QMS-PS 800 II           47.0     44.766 woo@ames.arc.nasa.gov
QMS-PS 810              47.2     43.074 ssmullen@utcvm.bitnet
QMS-PS 810 Turbo        51.7     15.421 woo@ames.arc.nasa.gov
QMS-PS 820              51.7     15.512 qmsseq!lyle
QMS-PS 820              47.0     44.652 larryp@sco.com
QMS-PS 2210             51.0     17.223 jjwcmp@ultb.isc.rit.edu
Qume CrystalPrint Pub  200.0      7.66  sysnmc@chron.com
Ricoh PC Laser 6000/PS  50.5     43.057 koga@ames.arc.nasa.gov
SUN SPARC I printer      2.1     25.680 kubicar@sun.com
Talaris 1590-T(firmware) 1.3     38.94  dstivend@cmsa.gmr.com
Talaris 1590-T           1.3     77.69  kosower@fnala.fnal.gov
TI Omnilaser 2115       47.0     57.572 sullivan@alw.nih.edu
TI Microlaser           52.1     55.45  sysnmc@chron.com

P.S.  This is not a great benchmark since these times represent
internal postscript time to print a wheel of text.  But they
are the only ones we could find.
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ta-aca@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Andrew C. Athan) (05/04/91)

Could you please clarify the meanings of the two columns of numbers in the
printer benchmark?  They are headed by "VERSION  TIME"  is this
"VERSION","TIME" (two words) or "VERSION-TIME" (one item) ... in any case,
what do these numbers represent eggsactly :-)

aca
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