greg@isrnix.UUCP (Gregory Travis) (02/03/86)
According to my Chilton manual for 1970-80 Volvos, the Volvo diesel is
a VW/AUDI diesel (says nothing about Peugeot) with an extra cylinder (to
make 6) - so the block is longer, but essentially the same. At around
80 horses (I don't have the exact figure) with 6, I can't imagine why
VW/AUDI would ever bother with a 5!
The B27/B28 engine (gas) was designed jointly by Volvo, Peugeot and
Renault. With that kind of teamwork, I'm amazed the cars even start.
We had a lemon Peugeot in the 60's and my mothers '72 Renault 16 virtually
rattled every part off that wasn't welded to the car in the first year.
To be fair, however, the car is still running and has over 160,000 miles
(90,000 of them were in Morocco in the early '70s).
Are there any B27/B28 owners out there who would like to give some real
feedback (i.e. supported by evidence, unlike my slanderous ravings) on the
quality/reliability/performance of the B27/28?
There is just something very scary about an all-aluminum 90 degree V6
with wet cylinder liners.
Does anyone know the type/designation/specifications for the new 700
series engines? Are they B28s? What about the turbo wagon (now
defunct?)?
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Gregory R. Travis
Institute for Social Research - Indiana University - Bloomington, In
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{pur-ee,allegra,qusavx}!isrnix!gregtim@ur-cvsvax.UUCP (Tim Takahashi) (02/27/86)
> According to my Chilton manual for 1970-80 Volvos, the Volvo diesel is > a VW/AUDI diesel (says nothing about Peugeot) with an extra cylinder (to > make 6) - so the block is longer, but essentially the same. At around > 80 horses (I don't have the exact figure) with 6, I can't imagine why > VW/AUDI would ever bother with a 5! > > The B27/B28 engine (gas) was designed jointly by Volvo, Peugeot and > Renault. With that kind of teamwork, I'm amazed the cars even start. > We had a lemon Peugeot in the 60's and my mothers '72 Renault 16 virtually > rattled every part off that wasn't welded to the car in the first year. > To be fair, however, the car is still running and has over 160,000 miles > (90,000 of them were in Morocco in the early '70s). > > Are there any B27/B28 owners out there who would like to give some real > feedback (i.e. supported by evidence, unlike my slanderous ravings) on the > quality/reliability/performance of the B27/28? As a relatively satisfied '79 264GL owner - that means I have a B27F - I can say that the B27 starts easily and runs impeccably in sub-zero as well as 80+ degree weather (with 55,000 miles on the clock). However, to keep your B27 happy you must change the oil every 3000 miles and have the mechanical valve lifters adjusted every 30000 miles (pennies from heaven). The major problem occurs when you blow off an oil change and the all-aluminum camshafts get scored. Replacing the camshafts costs a cool $1200. With meticulous maintanence the B27 is a reliable, but expensive powerplant. > There is just something very scary about an all-aluminum 90 degree V6 > with wet cylinder liners. > > Does anyone know the type/designation/specifications for the new 700 > series engines? Are they B28s? What about the turbo wagon (now > defunct?)? > Volvo's nomeclature is getting as confusing as it was in the late sixties. The nomenclature goes as follows - 240 series (gasoline - '75 B20F, '76-'82 B21F, '83- B23F, turbo gasoline - '81-'83 B21FT, '84- B23FT, diesel 6-cylinder '83-), 260 series (gasoline - '76-'79 B27F, '80-'82 B28F, '80,'82 diesel 6-cylinder) The 700 series is as follows : 740 Sedan and Wagon (B23F gasoline), 740 Turbo Sedan and Wagon (B23FT gasoline), 760 Turbo Sedan (B23FT gasoline), 760 TurboDiesel Sedan and Wagon (turbo-diesel 6-cylinder), 760 GLE (B28F v-6 gasoline).\ By the way, the diesel 6-cylinder has nothing in common with the gasoline V-6. Also, early 200 series diesels were technically 264 DL-Diesels which had a higher level of standard equipment than 244 DL's. Later 200 series diesels were 244 GL's with diesel powerplants. Confusing isn't it? Tim Takahashi (Mr. Volvo) Center for Vis. Sci. University of Rochester Rochester, NY 14620 > Gregory R. Travis > Institute for Social Research - Indiana University - Bloomington, In > ihnp4!inuxc!isrnix!greg > {pur-ee,allegra,qusavx}!isrnix!greg