[comp.sys.next] Workstation opinions

prbrig01@ULKYVX.BITNET (NEWS_PERSONALNAME) (06/07/91)

I have an information/opinion request.

I am in need of a FORTRAN programming system for my personal use.  It
may be that I will need to expand to C and C++ in the near future.  My
needs are for scientific programming.

I request information and opinions on which platform I should use.  As
of now, I own an SE/30.  If I continue on the SE/30 I believe I will
need to purchase AU/X 2.0 or MPW.  Is this correct?  Would this be the
best solution.  I have been told that the NeXT uses 'real' Unix and
is a superior platform for scientific programming.

An alternative is to get a SUN or Iris workstation.  Is the increase in
power worth the vast price increase.

As of now, remaining with my '30 or a NeXT would seem best.

Comments/opinions are welcome.

As always

Ed Wright

petrilli@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Chris Petrilli) (06/07/91)

Ed Wright writes:

   I have an information/opinion request.

Who doesn't?

   I am in need of a FORTRAN programming system for my personal use.
   It may be that I will need to expand to C and C++ in the near
   future.  My needs are for scientific programming.

   I request information and opinions on which platform I should use.
   As of now, I own an SE/30.  If I continue on the SE/30 I believe I
   will need to purchase AU/X 2.0 or MPW.  Is this correct?  Would
   this be the best solution.  I have been told that the NeXT uses
   'real' Unix and is a superior platform for scientific programming.

I do believe that there are Fortran compilers on the Mac without
moving to A/UX, but they will have problems allocating large amounts
of memory (no VM).   Having used a NeXT, HP 9000, Sun (Sparc, 3, 4)
and IBM RS/6000s, I still lean toward the NeXT.  If you do not need
the ABSOLUTE performance, but instead something that increases
productivity, go with the NeXT.  If you have access to a network of
NeXT machines, Zilla will allow REAL computations (I heard a rumor of
Zilla running on a Connection Machine 2, now that's power).  All NeXT
machines run Mach, with a BSD4.3 implementation on top of it.  For
many people (myself included) this is REAL Unix (as opposed to the Sys
V stuff), but nonethe less, it is a FULLBLOWN Unix machine, with all
the niceties that go along with it.

   An alternative is to get a SUN or Iris workstation.  Is the
   increase in power worth the vast price increase.

As I said before, get a Sun if you MUST have the performace, but you
will be more productive on the NeXT, I know I am, but I program in C,
and Objective-C (and of course Lisp).  The NeXT is THE biggest
bang-for-the=buck on market...

   As of now, remaining with my '30 or a NeXT would seem best.

Why use yesterday's technology today... use tomorrows technology
today. (hey, think I can sell that to NeXT :) ).

   Comments/opinions are welcome.

Thank you.

Chris
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