[net.auto] honda turning problem...

kevin@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU (Wing) (02/26/86)

I have an 83 Honda Accord  that has been exihibiting unusual
behavior.  When turning, the car sometimes makes this clunking sound
that comes from somewhere around the front wheels.  It occurs
mostly when beginning a turn from a dead stop.  I don't accelerate
real fast or anything.  It is also more evident turning right than
turning left, or when turning to go up a hill.  Someone said to me
that it sounds like a CV joint, whatever that is, and that it is
not serious yet (but that it would be serious if the car was clunking
while going straight), and that the only solution is to replace the
front axle.  Does this sound reasonable?  I can't even tell from
the service manual where this CV joint is.

Any opinions or suggestions will be appreciated.
kevin@ucbvax.berkeley.edu

janeann@ut-ngp.UUCP (Carlotta Lamour) (02/26/86)

>I have an 83 Honda Accord  that has been exihibiting unusual
>behavior.  When turning, the car sometimes makes this clunking sound
>that comes from somewhere around the front wheels.  It occurs
>mostly when beginning a turn from a dead stop.  I don't accelerate
>real fast or anything.  It is also more evident turning right than
>turning left, or when turning to go up a hill.  Someone said to me
>that it sounds like a CV joint, whatever that is, and that it is
>not serious yet (but that it would be serious if the car was clunking
>while going straight), and that the only solution is to replace the
>front axle.  Does this sound reasonable?  I can't even tell from
>the service manual where this CV joint is.
>
>Any opinions or suggestions will be appreciated.
>kevin@ucbvax.berkeley.edu

Yes, indeed, it *does* sound like your CV joint.  The CV (constant
velocity) joint is located between your axle and your wheel.  There
is a "boot" (rubber cone-shaped object, easily found behind your
wheel) which surrounds the CV joint; this boot is very susceptible
to getting a crack in it (a major design flaw in Hondas, I believe),
in which case dirt and shit gets into the joint and lubrication gets
out.  The result is a bad CV joint, which apparently cannot be fixed
without replacing the axle.  I have a 1976 Honda Civic, and this noise
had been going on for SIX years before I finally decided to fix it.
The reason I waited this long is that someone told me that it was safe
as long as the noise only occurred when turning; if the noise persists
when going straight, this is a bad sign.  (Actually, the noise
never persisted when going straight for me; I just finally had the
money to fix it.)

Now, I have heard that there is a way to replace the CV joint
without changing the axle out too.  You may want to contact a Honda
mechanic out there (not the dealer!) and find out if they have
heard of this.  Of course, if you wait as long as I did, you'll
want to replace the axle too because it's been without lubrication
too for a while.  Finally, in Austin a year and a half ago it cost
me $180.00 to get this fixed.  How much do they want for the job in
California?


charles s. cgeiger
economics
(send e-mail to cgeiger, not janeann)

tim@ur-cvsvax.UUCP (Tim Takahashi) (03/02/86)

> 
> >I have an 83 Honda Accord  that has been exihibiting unusual
> >behavior.  When turning, the car sometimes makes this clunking sound
> >that comes from somewhere around the front wheels.  It occurs
> >mostly when beginning a turn from a dead stop.  I don't accelerate
> >real fast or anything.  It is also more evident turning right than
> >turning left, or when turning to go up a hill.  Someone said to me
> >that it sounds like a CV joint, whatever that is, and that it is
> >not serious yet (but that it would be serious if the car was clunking
> >while going straight), and that the only solution is to replace the
> >front axle.  Does this sound reasonable?  I can't even tell from
> >the service manual where this CV joint is.
> >

> >Any opinions or suggestions will be appreciated

If you hear a single "clunk," and either your front end has been abused or
you just have more than ~45000 miles on your car, your MacPherson struts
lower ball joints/and or bushings may be worn. Ball joint bushings tend to
get cracked and then the whole strut/wheel assembly can rock fore and aft.
My Volvo made a single "clunk" under braking (it rear wheel drive) as a
result of worn bushings. They cost ~$175 to be replaced.

							Tim Takahashi
							(Mr. Volvo)
							Center for Vis.Sci
							Univ. of Rochester
							Rochester,NY 14627
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