esht_cif@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Eran Shtiegman) (03/22/91)
Okay so I found out that there are two versions that work. Co-Xist and Mcgill, thank you those of you who responded. So now the obvious question is what are the differences between the two version and which is better. thanks, Eran Shtiegman
nick@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Nick Christopher) (06/12/91)
I want to run som X11 stuff on my NeXT. Are there and NeXT ready X11 packages out there for free? Is the X11 on cs.orst.edu just that? Do all of these run in there own window? I do not want to replace NeXTStep ad my windowing environment - just run a few X apps. \n
das15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Douglas A Scott) (06/12/91)
In article <1991Jun12.020913.24116@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> nick@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Nick Christopher) writes: >I want to run som X11 stuff on my NeXT. Are there and NeXT ready X11 >packages out there for free? Is the X11 on cs.orst.edu just that? > >Do all of these run in there own window? I do not want to replace >NeXTStep ad my windowing environment - just run a few X apps. First off, yes, the X11 package on cs.orst.edu is an X server and accompanying programs which run "instead" of NextStep in the sense that the X window temporarily replaces the NextStep display--but you dont need to concern yourself with that when you run it. You can survive with a small subset of the binaries that come with it--just read up on X to determine which. I do want to say that today I spent an hour on the phone helping someone untangle the mess that is created when one attempts to install the X package off of cs.orst.edu. Apparently whoever created the install package did what seems to me to be some unnecessary business with long pathnames to the directories. I would like to make a suggestion: Have the install package simply create a directory called "X" or "X11" in some sensible place (such as /usr/local) and then put 3 or 4 subdirectories within that called bin, include, and lib -- plus one more perhaps called usr.include. After those are created, the script can create the necessary links from those dirs to /usr/bin/X11, /usr/include/X11, and /usr/lib/X11, respectively. That way, is is easy to back files up on disk or tape, and it parallels the structure of the original X source tree. The libarary archives can be either actually installed in /usr/lib or linked from the usr.lib directory--again for ease of backup. I will close by saying that I am an enthusiast of both X and NextStep, believe in having and using them both, know a bit about the weaknesses and strengths of each, and wish to work to make both as easy and accessible as possible on the NeXT platform. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Douglas Scott Columbia University Computer Music Studio Internet: <doug@woof.columbia.edu> <das15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu> UUCP: ...!columbia!woof!zardoz!doug Phone: (703)765-4771
fletcher@socrates.umd.edu (Charles Fletcher) (06/12/91)
In article <1991Jun12.033947.22895@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> das15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Douglas A Scott) writes: >In article <1991Jun12.020913.24116@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> nick@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Nick Christopher) writes: >>I want to run som X11 stuff on my NeXT. Are there and NeXT ready X11 >>packages out there for free? Is the X11 on cs.orst.edu just that? >> >>Do all of these run in there own window? I do not want to replace >>NeXTStep ad my windowing environment - just run a few X apps. > > First off, yes, the X11 package on cs.orst.edu is an X server and > accompanying programs which run "instead" of NextStep in the sense > that the X window temporarily replaces the NextStep display--but you > dont need to concern yourself with that when you run it. You can > survive with a small subset of the binaries that come with it--just > read up on X to determine which. > Well I'm not sure how I got the job, but I will be putting the coXist demo back on nova.cc.purdue.edu later today. Look for it in the submissions directory. I have included the install instructions that were posted earlier by Wes Smith. Following these instructions I had no problem getting the demo up and running. coXist opens a NeXT window which handles the X windows inside it. Seems to work very well. But *please* direct any questions or comments to Pencom since I know very little about X and their product. Charlie
SAMcinty@exua.exeter.ac.uk (Scott McIntyre) (06/17/91)
Ok, novice question time....what precisely is X? What does it do? As far as I have been able to make out, it is a client/server package to allow networked machines to create windows that run X applications remotely...is this correct? Secondly, given that I am a standalone next and have no intention of placing it on a network, should I bother getting X for my colour station? Thanks, Scott -- mcintyre@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk Scott A. McIntyre SAMcinty@uk.ac.exeter.exua Cornwall House S_MCINTYRE@uk.ac.lut.hicom St. Germans Road mcintyre.s@uk.ac.exeter Exeter, Devon, UK