Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Gerhard Moeller) (06/18/91)
Hi. Does anyone know if there are efforts made to implement the 'eiffel' - Programming language on the NeXT? In my opinion this should be done, as the NeXT is a modern, objective-orientatet system, and as such crying for a modern, objective orientated programming system. And I also think that many NeXT users as well as programmers are sick of those pseudo OO-language hybrids C++ and O-C. (Even though there is hardly an alternative to it, as it's still Unix we're dealing with...) Gerhard. -- +---------------------------< principiis obsta! >---------------------------+ | Gerhard Moeller, Teichstrasse 12, 2900 Oldenburg (FRG) [Geb. 02/21/68] | | inhouse: gimli!gemoe uucp: ...(unido!)uniol!gmoeller | |DOMAIN: gerhard.moeller@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de | |BITNET: gmoeller%arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de@DOLUNI1 (106495@DOLUNI1) | +-----------------------> the medium is the message <-----------------------+
osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn) (06/18/91)
In article <5900@uniol.UUCP> Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Gerhard Moeller) writes: >Hi. >Programming language on the NeXT? In my opinion this should be done, as >the NeXT is a modern, objective-orientatet system, and as such crying Eiffel for the NeXT is currently (or soon will be) in beta testing. (But don't ask me any questions about it. I just happen to work with a guy that publishes an Eiffel newsletter.) - -John H. Osborn -osborn@cs.utexas.edu
fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars P. Fischer) (06/19/91)
>>>>> On 18 Jun 91 10:32:21 GMT, >>>>> Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Gerhard Moeller) said: Gerhard> Does anyone know if there are efforts made to implement the Gerhard> 'eiffel' - Programming language on the NeXT? You might like to take a look at the Sather programming language available icsi-ftp.berkeley.edu (or gmdzi.gmd.de). Sather is a OOPL heavily influenced by Eifel (Sather is the name of a tower in the Berkeley area). Sather is available free of charge and comes with compiler, library, a GNU Emacs-based environment, and more. The Sather compiler generates C code so the system should be easy to port. It currently works with Sun-4 workstations. The Sather system is currently at a quite early stage in it's development, but is mature enough that the compiler can compile itself (ie. the Sather compiler is written in Sather). The language seems more intended for real programmers and less for language designers than Eiffel, and he price sure is right. Gerhard> And I also think that many NeXT users as well as programmers Gerhard> are sick of those pseudo OO-language hybrids C++ and O-C. Oh, no. Please, no my-language-is-more-OO-than-yours wars. Gerhard> (Even though there is hardly an alternative to it, as it's Gerhard> still Unix we're dealing with...) I see a great variety of OOPL's available for UNIX, possibly more than for any other platform. Gerhard> +-----------------------> the medium is the message <------------- Lot's of programming language designers would agree with you. Both languages and programmers suffer (:-). /Lars -- Lars Fischer, fischer@iesd.auc.dk | It takes an uncommon mind to think of CS Dept., Univ. of Aalborg, DENMARK. | these things. -- Calvin
Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Gerhard Moeller) (06/19/91)
osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn) writes: >In article <5900@uniol.UUCP> Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Gerhard Moeller) writes: >>Hi. >>Programming language on the NeXT? In my opinion this should be done, as >>the NeXT is a modern, objective-orientatet system, and as such crying >Eiffel for the NeXT is currently (or soon will be) in beta testing. >(But don't ask me any questions about it. I just happen to work with a guy >that publishes an Eiffel newsletter.) WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!