[comp.sys.next] KCL bashing

chari@sonia.ma.utexas.edu (Christopher M. Whatley) (06/21/91)

People should not confuse KCl with AKCL. AKCL is a serious environment
which is aggressively supported and widely used by AI professionals
and researchers for a number of reasons. A few are:

1) SOURCE CODE. I say that anyone who depends upon Franz or Lucid to
write perfect CLtL compliant code needs to have their head checked.
At least with AKCL, if there is a bug, you can fix it yourself if you
need to. Also, you can see exactly how the low level code is done and
can get a more concrete idea of how to improve your code's
performance.

2) FREE. It don't cost a penny. How much are Lucid and Franz? $4000
per machine maybe.

3) FAST. Compiled code in AKCL (Sun3 and Sun4) beats the pants off of
Lucid and Franz with the gabriel benchmark.

> From: tenny@ootool.dec.com (Dave Tenny)

> Naturally, my opinion is worth what you paid for it as well, but I hope
> it helps answer your question.  If you just want to write 
> relatively inconsequential toy code in Lisp,
> then KCL will probably meet your needs admirably.

I guess IBM's scratchpad symbolic math environment is just
inconsequential trash. It weighs in at about 50MB of source and was
developed with AKCL. Several other important tools have been written
with AKCL as well. Also, CLOS and CLX work fine with AKCL,

I will be really happy when we get AKCL _working_ on the NeXT not just
the crippled version that exists now. 

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