kph@blackhole.bae.bellcore.com (Keith P. Hawkins) (06/21/91)
I have an 040 Cube running 2.0 with just the swapdisk and the optical drive. I am now running out of free space on my optical. I am thinking about getting a harddisk for the machine. I am tempted to buy the 330 Mb advertised in BusinessLands last fire sale, but 330MB doesn't sound like a lot of space if ~200 MB is needed just to hold the system software. I suppose that I could buy a single additional optical disk to use as a backup to the one I currently have and keep just data on the harddisk. Is this feasible? Or does one want to run the system off of the disk as well for performance reasons and the 330Mb just too small? Basically what I'm asking is what would all you knowledgeable people out there do if you were in my shoes? (Size 10 1/2 :-) Please respond with any suggestions you may have. Thanks, Keith
sanders-malcolm@CS.YALE.EDU (Malcolm Sanders) (06/21/91)
In article <1991Jun20.181149.17058@bellcore.bellcore.com> kph@blackhole.bae.bellcore.com (Keith P. Hawkins) writes:
I have an 040 Cube running 2.0 with just the swapdisk and the
optical drive. I am now running out of free space on my optical.
I am thinking about getting a harddisk for the machine. I am tempted
to buy the 330 Mb advertised in BusinessLands last fire sale, but 330MB
doesn't sound like a lot of space if ~200 MB is needed just
to hold the system software.
I suppose that I could buy a single additional optical disk to use as a
backup to the one I currently have and keep just data on the harddisk.
Is this feasible? Or does one want to run the system off of the disk
as well for performance reasons and the 330Mb just too small?
[....]
Please respond with any suggestions you may have.
Thanks,
Keith
My understanding is that the 330 Mb disk drive is the largest that
can coexist with the optical disk inside the cube. If you want a
larger hard disk, you will have to hang it (or the optical disk
drive) off the SCSI port.
I would tend to have the stuff that is used most often on the hard
disk, since it has a faster seek time than the optical disk, but
I'm really a novice at this stuff, so a grain of salt is advised.
Malcolm Sanders
Applied Physics
Yale Universitynathan@jacobi.biology.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) (06/22/91)
In article <1991Jun21.170759.27997@cs.yale.edu> sanders-malcolm@CS.YALE.EDU (Malcolm Sanders) writes: > In article <1991Jun20.181149.17058@bellcore.bellcore.com> kph@blackhole.bae.bellcore.com (Keith P. Hawkins) writes: > > > > I have an 040 Cube running 2.0 with just the swapdisk and the > optical drive. I am now running out of free space on my optical. > I am thinking about getting a harddisk for the machine. I am tempted > to buy the 330 Mb advertised in BusinessLands last fire sale, but 330MB > doesn't sound like a lot of space if ~200 MB is needed just > to hold the system software. > > My understanding is that the 330 Mb disk drive is the largest that > can coexist with the optical disk inside the cube. If you want a > larger hard disk, you will have to hang it (or the optical disk > drive) off the SCSI port. > NeXT offers the 400Mb half-height disk as the replacement for the 330Mb half-height units that used to come with older cubes. Either way, there is one full-height of space left in cubes with the OD drive. So, as long as you pull the 40Mb swapdisk, you could install a 660Mb full-height disk. -- Nathan Janette nathan@jacobi.biology.yale.edu
jchin@wimsey.bc.ca (Joseph Chin) (06/22/91)
In article <1991Jun21.170759.27997@cs.yale.edu> sanders-malcolm@CS.YALE.EDU (Malcolm Sanders) writes: > >My understanding is that the 330 Mb disk drive is the largest that >can coexist with the optical disk inside the cube. If you want a >larger hard disk, you will have to hang it (or the optical disk >drive) off the SCSI port. Sorry Malcolm ... you're wrong there! The harddrive capacity has absolutely no bearing on the type of harddrive you can put in an OD cube. There is room in an OD cube for a full-height 5.25" harddrive of ANY CAPACITY. I think Micropolis has just announced a 2GB 5.25" full-height hard drive. :-) Joe -- Joseph Chin Wordcraft Systems Corporation jchin@van-bc.wimsey.bc.ca 201-434 West 12th Avenue (604)879-9687 (voice & NeXTfax) Vancouver, B.C., Canada V5Y 1V3 ********************* NeXT Registered Developer ********************
cdl@chiton.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) (06/23/91)
In article <1991Jun21.170759.27997@cs.yale.edu> sanders-malcolm@CS.YALE.EDU (Malcolm Sanders) writes: >In article <1991Jun20.181149.17058@bellcore.bellcore.com> kph@blackhole.bae.bellcore.com (Keith P. Hawkins) writes: > > I have an 040 Cube running 2.0 with just the swapdisk and the > optical drive. I am now running out of free space on my optical. > I am thinking about getting a harddisk for the machine. > >My understanding is that the 330 Mb disk drive is the largest that >can coexist with the optical disk inside the cube. At least one misunderstanding here -- no valid reason (except possibly power consumption) why you can't put a *big* disk drive in a cube along with the OD. I have a 660MB MaxTor in mine. When the NeXT 030 cubes came with hard disks they were sold with nothing over 330MB because of economics, but the price of disk drives keeps going down. > If you want a >larger hard disk, you will have to hang it (or the optical disk >drive) off the SCSI port. Another misunderstanding here -- the NeXT internal OD is *not* SCSI. It has its own controller and internal bus. >I would tend to have the stuff that is used most often on the hard >disk, since it has a faster seek time than the optical disk. Good idea here. Use the OD as archival storage, and bring things from it to use as needed. -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego {decvax|ucbvax} !ucsd!mpl!cdl cdl@mpl.ucsd.edu clowenstein@ucsd.edu
cyliao@eng.umd.edu (Chun-Yao Liao) (06/24/91)
In article <1991Jun21.170759.27997@cs.yale.edu> sanders-malcolm@CS.YALE.EDU (Malcolm Sanders) writes: > >My understanding is that the 330 Mb disk drive is the largest that >can coexist with the optical disk inside the cube. If you want a >larger hard disk, you will have to hang it (or the optical disk >drive) off the SCSI port. Not true, there are people with 1.2G HD IN their cube with OD drive. The NeXTcube's driver bay can accomodate 2 FH devices, or 2HH+1FH, or 4HH devices. Don't forget that NeXT shippes cube with 660 meg Maxtor HD in cube with OD. -- cyliao@bagend.eng.umd.edu o Q. Who am I? NeXTmail o.k. o A. A NeXTed person with 320meg HD and OD I have MailService o An Apple // guy and a 2400 modem w/o MNP o An airplane pilot (I hope)