[comp.sys.next] hooking up a NeXT with 10baseT connector

foley@phoebus.meteor.wisc.edu (Jonathan Foley) (06/28/91)

A friend needs this info.  Please email me and I'll forward it along:

He wants to hook up a NeXT to our building's twisted pair ethernet.
The software configuration looks okay, but there no connections
are present...what's the deal?  Are there some funny hardware requirements
for hooking a NeXT to the ethernet?  Any information would be 
most appreciated.

Thanks!
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louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos) (06/28/91)

My 68040 NeXT cube is plugged right into our 10Base-T Ethernet network
with just a simple twisted-pair jumper between the back of the machine and
the wall.  It works just fine.

Is you're twisted-pair ethernet 10Base-T compatible?  If its older Starlan-10
or early synoptics you'll likely have problems as they were not 10Base-T
compatible.

louie

cnh5730@calvin.tamu.edu (Charles Herrick) (06/28/91)

In article <1991Jun27.231434.8578@ni.umd.edu> louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos) writes:
   Is you're twisted-pair ethernet 10Base-T compatible?  If its older Starlan-10
   or early synoptics you'll likely have problems as they were not 10Base-T
   compatible.

Isn't this further complicated by the fact that while 10-Base-T is
twisted-pair compatible, twisted-pair is _NOT_ necessarily 10-Base-T 
compliant?
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 and the wire is what the whole thing is about."
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coco@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (felix.a.lugo) (06/29/91)

In article <1991Jun27.210746.15069@meteor.wisc.edu> foley@meteor.wisc.edu writes:
| He wants to hook up a NeXT to our building's twisted pair ethernet.
| The software configuration looks okay, but there no connections
| are present...what's the deal?  Are there some funny hardware requirements
| for hooking a NeXT to the ethernet?  Any information would be 
| most appreciated.
| 
| Thanks!
| -- 

	I experienced the same problem when connecting my cube to a Starlan-10
	HUB using 10baseT.  It turned out to be caused by an incorrect
	configuration in the HUB itself.  Here's some info ...

	The standard 10baseT includes a "link-integrity" feature which is
	used to determine if the other side of a connection is active.
	This is required at both ends of a twisted-pair cable (i.e. in
	my case, from my NeXT to a port on the Starlan-10 HUB).  The NeXT
	adheres to this standard, and thus requires that the other side of
	your friend's connection enable "link-integrity".  In my case, link-
	integrity was switch-selectable on a port basis in the Starlan HUB.
	Have your friend (or building management) check the configuration
	of the hardware he connects to.

	If link-integrity cannot be enabled, then I suggest that he obtain a
	10base2 (thin ethernet) to 10baseT converter with switch-selectable
	link-integrity (~ $500.00).  He can then connect this box to the
	NeXT's thin port and DISABLE link-integrity at the converter.  Or
	better yet, have building management replace their outdated hardware.
	8^)

	If link-integrity is enabled, but he still can't get it working,
	then he probably has a problem with his system (assuming his software
	configuration is correct as you mentioned)!

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