MBParker@share.UUCP (06/21/91)
Has anyone got emacs GNUS running on the NeXT? What did you do? I'm stuck. I'm trying to install the powerful emacs newsreader gnus (version 3.13) on a NeXT running Release 2.1, which comes with GNU Emacs 18.55.121 preinstalled. But when I invoke gnus (M-x gnus) within emacs, gnus starts up, checks for ~/.newsrc (which, say, doesn't exist), appears to be reading and possibly /usr/lib/news/active; but the active file is over roughly 423 lines/groups (mine is 1231 lines), gnus will never finish reading it and will fatally ``IOT trap''s during one of its ``Garbage collecting'' cycles. Marc Horowitz <marc@mit.edu> said emacs-18.55 had garbage collection bugs and suggested I try using a more recent version (Why hadn't NeXT included the most recent version of Emacs in their recent 2.1 Release?!!); so I laboriously obtained, built, and installed the most recent version of emacs, version 18.57, but the problem remained unscathed. I don't know what code's producing the IOT signal --the emacs code doesn't IOT signal; nor do I know what the signal's supposed to mean (out of memory?). So I'm stuck. So if any of you nice folk have a guess at what might be wrong, or better, if you've been able to get GNUS running on the NeXT, please reply to mbparker@mit.edu. Thanks, -Mike Parker
melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger) (06/28/91)
In article <1991Jun21.094014.15441@share.UUCP> MBParker@share.UUCP writes:
Has anyone got emacs GNUS running on the NeXT? What did you do? I'm stuck.
I'm trying to install the powerful emacs newsreader gnus (version 3.13) on a
NeXT running Release 2.1, which comes with GNU Emacs 18.55.121 preinstalled.
But when I invoke gnus (M-x gnus) within emacs, gnus starts up, checks for
~/.newsrc (which, say, doesn't exist), appears to be reading and possibly
/usr/lib/news/active; but the active file is over roughly 423 lines/groups
(mine is 1231 lines), gnus will never finish reading it and will fatally ``IOT
trap''s during one of its ``Garbage collecting'' cycles.
I use GNUS 3.13 on the 040 NeXT Cube(2.0) from time to time (can't
post at that nntp server, though) w/o any problems. However, I've had
problems with Emacs on the new NeXTstations, and I have no idea why.
At times Emacs seems to take forever loading files and saving them.
There isn't any difference b/w the 040 Cube and the NeXTstation slab
is there? Has anyone else experience any problems with the Slab? It
could be our network configuration.
-Mikecnh5730@calvin.tamu.edu (Charles Herrick) (06/28/91)
In article <1991Jun21.094014.15441@share.UUCP> MBParker@share.UUCP writes:
Has anyone got emacs GNUS running on the NeXT? What did you do? I'm stuck.
Would you consider NewsGrazer, the nntp-compatible USENET newsreader
which was written for the NeXT? It's slower than GNUS but much more
feature-rich and is very NeXTy.
--
"I am walking on the wire
and the wire is what the whole thing is about."
-- John Stewartcedman@golem.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman) (06/28/91)
In article <CNH5730.91Jun28104343@calvin.tamu.edu> cnh5730@calvin.tamu.edu (Charles Herrick) writes: MBParker@share.UUCP writes: Has anyone got emacs GNUS running on the NeXT? What did you do? I'm stuck. Would you consider NewsGrazer, the nntp-compatible USENET newsreader which was written for the NeXT? It's slower than GNUS but much more feature-rich and is very NeXTy. *Yes, it is slow indeed, but it most certainly is not more feature rich than GNUS. Any standalone would by necessity have to be less feature rich than a programm like GNUS which is basically 300 kBytes of high-level language frills (as the basic things like NNTP and user interface are to a large part taken care of in other parts of emacs). Add to this the trivial extensibility of GNUS in emacs lisp, and no standalone news reader can possibly keep up. Newsgrazer itself is nice enough and really much more NeXTy than GNUS. Now if just stopped going into an endless loop when one selected Listing type display of newsgroups. Carl Edman -- "We hold that what one man cannot morally do, a million men cannot morally do, and government, representing many millions of men, cannot do." -- Auberon Herbert Send mail to Carl Edman <cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu>
steve@tweedledee.ucsb.edu (Steve Trainoff) (06/29/91)
In article <CNH5730.91Jun28104343@calvin.tamu.edu> cnh5730@calvin.tamu.edu (Charles Herrick) writes: > Would you consider NewsGrazer, the nntp-compatible USENET newsreader > which was written for the NeXT? It's slower than GNUS but much more > feature-rich and is very NeXTy. Here is a tip to speed up the Grazer a bit. For some reason that I can't fathom, it takes forever to write out the .newsrc. By default it does this everytime one switches groups. If you set the preference: Configuration->Record articles read... When quitting the application, it only writes the .newsrc out once at the end. This speeds it up quite a bit at the expense of a bit less reliabililty. I also wish it would save articles by appending them to a file like rn does. This really is much more convenient than having them labeled by their article number, but I suppose the current method is better for indexing in the Librarian. -- ..STeve ------------------------------------ Insert pity maxim here... steve@tweedledee.ucsb.edu (NeXT mail)