rab@speech1.cs.cmu.edu (Robert Brennan) (06/17/91)
I am looking for a new pair of 9600 baud modems. I have been using two Trailblazers very successfully but we need to purchase additional modems. They need to be as reliable and as fast, even faster if possible, than the Trailblazers, work reliably with SLIP and ideally have fax capabilities. (I am not even sure there are 9600 baud modems with fax capabilities, but it would be nice.) So, is the Trailblazer still the way to go or are there others that are better? Robert Brennan rab@cs.cmu.edu School of Computer Science (412) 268-3806 Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213
Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Gerhard Moeller) (06/18/91)
rab@speech1.cs.cmu.edu (Robert Brennan) writes: >I am looking for a new pair of 9600 baud modems. I have been using two >Trailblazers very successfully but we need to purchase additional modems. >They need to be as reliable and as fast, even faster if possible, than >the Trailblazers, work reliably with SLIP and ideally have fax capabilities. >(I am not even sure there are 9600 baud modems with fax capabilities, but it >would be nice.) >So, is the Trailblazer still the way to go or are there others that are >better? >Robert Brennan rab@cs.cmu.edu >School of Computer Science (412) 268-3806 >Carnegie Mellon University >Pittsburgh, PA 15213 I use an Anchor 96E5, which works with the NeXT very well. At the moment I can use V.32 and V.42, soon there will be a V.32bis and V.42bis and fax possible (sierra). (V.42bis in about two weeks, V.32bis in 3-4 weeks and fax should work in 1-2 months.) But maybe all this is already possible in the US. (The EPROM code is already set up for all that stuff) - BTW the modem is connected to the NeXT with 38400 Baud. Fazit: I'm absolutely satisfied with the modem for a reasonable price (speaking for Germany). Gerhard. -- +---------------------------< principiis obsta! >---------------------------+ | Gerhard Moeller, Teichstrasse 12, 2900 Oldenburg (FRG) [Geb. 02/21/68] | | inhouse: gimli!gemoe uucp: ...(unido!)uniol!gmoeller | |DOMAIN: gerhard.moeller@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de | |BITNET: gmoeller%arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de@DOLUNI1 (106495@DOLUNI1) | +-----------------------> the medium is the message <-----------------------+
jiro@shaman.com (Jiro Nakamura) (06/18/91)
In article <13483@pt.cs.cmu.edu> rab@speech1.cs.cmu.edu (Robert Brennan) writes: > I am looking for a new pair of 9600 baud modems. I have been using two > Trailblazers very successfully but we need to purchase additional modems. > They need to be as reliable and as fast, even faster if possible, than > the Trailblazers, work reliably with SLIP and ideally have fax capabilities. > (I am not even sure there are 9600 baud modems with fax capabilities, but it > would be nice.) > So, is the Trailblazer still the way to go or are there others that are > better? Why not get a T1600 which is going to be upgraded to T1600 which is going to be upgraded to v32bis real soon now, or the T2500 which has v32 but no promise of an upgrade. I use a T2500 and am pretty happy with it. Telebit tech support is the tops, though. :-) - jiro nakamura jiro@shaman.com ps. Why did you post this to comp.sys.next only? pps. No financial connections to Telebit except as a customer. -- Jiro Nakamura jiro@shaman.com Shaman Consulting (607) 256-5125 VOICE "Bring your dead, dying shamans here!" (607) 277-1440 FAX/Data
tima@agora.rain.com (Tim Anderson) (06/18/91)
In article <5899@uniol.UUCP> Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Gerhard Moeller) writes: >rab@speech1.cs.cmu.edu (Robert Brennan) writes: > > >>I am looking for a new pair of 9600 baud modems... > >I use an Anchor 96E5, which works with the NeXT very well... DO NOT -I will repeat this- DO NOT get an ANCHOR modem. I've had nothing but problems with one of the three that we purchased AND SINCE THE COMPANY WENT BELLY UP, getting warranty service on these boat ANCHOR's will be next to impossible. An appropriately named product. An extremely pissed customer, tima@agora.rain.com
larry@nstar.rn.com (Larry Snyder) (06/19/91)
jiro@shaman.com (Jiro Nakamura) writes: > Why not get a T1600 which is going to be upgraded to T1600 which is going >to be upgraded to v32bis real soon now, or the T2500 which has v32 but why even wait on Telebit when other vendors have been shipping v.32bis now for 6 months? -- Larry Snyder, NSTAR Public Access Unix 219-289-0287/317-251-7391 HST/PEP/V.32/v.32bis/v.42bis regional UUCP mapping coordinator {larry@nstar.rn.com, ..!uunet!nstar.rn.com!larry}
jchin@wimsey.bc.ca (Joseph Chin) (06/19/91)
In article <1991Jun18.171256.2393@nstar.rn.com> larry@nstar.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes: >jiro@shaman.com (Jiro Nakamura) writes: > >> Why not get a T1600 which is going to be upgraded to T1600 which is going >>to be upgraded to v32bis real soon now, or the T2500 which has v32 but > >why even wait on Telebit when other vendors have been shipping v.32bis >now for 6 months? > >-- > Larry Snyder, NSTAR Public Access Unix 219-289-0287/317-251-7391 > HST/PEP/V.32/v.32bis/v.42bis > regional UUCP mapping coordinator > {larry@nstar.rn.com, ..!uunet!nstar.rn.com!larry} Larry's right! I've done some shopping around and found the US Robotics Courier V.32bis to be a damn good deal for a high end (and extremely reliable) modem. It is compatible with more V.32 and V.32bis modems than other brands which I've evaluated (ATI, Microcom). The pricing is quite competitive too. For example, I am selling the USR Courier V.32bis external modem for less than $700 (Canadian), and I am sure mail order sources in the US sell it for even lower price. :-) Joe jchin@van-bc.wimsey.bc.ca -- Joseph Chin Wordcraft Systems Corporation jchin@van-bc.wimsey.bc.ca 201-434 West 12th Avenue (604)879-9687 (voice & NeXTfax) Vancouver, B.C., Canada V5Y 1V3 ********************* NeXT Registered Developer ********************
anderson@dogie.macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) (06/19/91)
In article <1991Jun18.185025.21642@wimsey.bc.ca> jchin@wimsey.bc.ca (Joseph Chin) writes: >Larry's right! I've done some shopping around and found the US Robotics >Courier V.32bis to be a damn good deal for a high end (and extremely reliable) >modem. It is compatible with more V.32 and V.32bis modems than other brands >which I've evaluated (ATI, Microcom). The pricing is quite competitive too. >For example, I am selling the USR Courier V.32bis external modem for less than >$700 (Canadian), and I am sure mail order sources in the US sell it for even >lower price. I bought a MultiTech V32 for $551. Haven't hooked to it the NeXT yet, but will in the next couple days, as I just picked up a cable today. I've been using this modem for some months now, though, to call our Vaxes (9600 Reliable Compressed is a great thing to see after connecting!). -- Jess Anderson <> Madison Academic Computing Center <> University of Wisconsin Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu <-best, UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson NeXTmail w/attachments: anderson@yak.macc.wisc.edu Bitnet: anderson@wiscmacc Room 3130 <> 1210 West Dayton Street / Madison WI 53706 <> Phone 608/262-5888
nerd@percival.rain.com (Michael Galassi) (06/19/91)
rab@speech1.cs.cmu.edu (Robert Brennan) writes: >I am looking for a new pair of 9600 baud modems. I have been using two >Trailblazers very successfully but we need to purchase additional modems. >They need to be as reliable and as fast, even faster if possible, than >the Trailblazers, work reliably with SLIP and ideally have fax capabilities. I use 3 Intel 9600EXs, one for dialin/dialout and the other two on slip links. They work realy well and unlike most other v32 modems they will try to retrain up as well as down after line noise. There is a rumor that Intel will do an upgrade to v32 but I don't know for certain, you might try calling them about it. They do support v42bis and all the mnp trash, er, I mean protocols, and using v42bis on text files I see ftp throughput along the order of 2.8 K / second (damn good in my book) with the interface locked at 384000 bps. >So, is the Trailblazer still the way to go or are there others that are >better? For slip the PEP stuff is useless. If you are doing a lot of UUCP, especaily overseas (satelite or anything else with long delays) then PEP is the ONLY way to go. I've not played with the t1600 but if my old TrailBlazer+ is any indication all TeleBit modems should be first rate. Mail me if you have any questions on the Intels, I know them fairly well. Cheers, -m -- Michael Galassi | nerd@percival.rain.com MS-DOS: The ultimate PC virus. | ...!tektronix!percy!nerd
bob@MorningStar.Com (Bob Sutterfield) (06/19/91)
In article <1991Jun18.213132.20862@percy.rain.com> nerd@percival.rain.com (Michael Galassi) writes:
For slip the PEP stuff is useless.
If you have implemented RFC1144 VJ TCP header compression, PEP modems
are quite useful for SLIP and PPP. PEP will hold the line when
nothing else will, FTP throughput is reasonable, and interactive
response is survivable.perstoro@netmbx.UUCP (Wilhelm Schaefer) (06/19/91)
anderson@dogie.macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes: >I bought a MultiTech V32 for $551. Haven't hooked to it the >NeXT yet, but will in the next couple days, as I just picked >up a cable today. >I've been using this modem for some months now, though, to >call our Vaxes (9600 Reliable Compressed is a great thing >to see after connecting!). Hmm - must be real good. Is it possible to get one of these over here. (to germany) In other words. May I order the modem by e-mail, or is there an other way to get it? Thanks a lot and so long -- --- good old perstoro --- -- perstoro@netmbx.in-berlin.de ufa06@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de
nerd@percival.rain.com (Michael Galassi) (06/19/91)
>I stated... > For slip the PEP stuff is useless. bob@MorningStar.Com (Bob Sutterfield) comes back with: >If you have implemented RFC1144 VJ TCP header compression, PEP modems >are quite useful for SLIP and PPP. PEP will hold the line when >nothing else will, FTP throughput is reasonable, and interactive >response is survivable. I counter with: This is only true if you have only *one* thing going on over the link. I don't know about anyone else but we use slip here for a metro-net (RAINet) and at any given time we have things going on in all directions (nntp news, smtp mail, rlogins, ftps and more). While we have not tried trailblazers on our slip links our trafic realy does NEED full duplex capability. I beleive anyone who is running slip will have multiple IP connections going at once, otherwise they are going to be better off dialing out with kermit. Interactive throughput is MUCH better, there is no packet overhead when typing. In any case I do agree (I think I even said this) that the PEP modems will work like no other when the delays are long. I do have one and I'll swear by it for UUCP work, still the best. -m -- Michael Galassi | nerd@percival.rain.com MS-DOS: The ultimate PC virus. | ...!tektronix!percy!nerd
ppham@gmuvax2.gmu.edu ( ) (06/20/91)
I've heard of a company that is selling generic 9600 baud V32 w/ V42bis modems for around $250-300. The name of the company is Image. But I have no idea what their # is does anyone know ?
smb@data.com (Steven M. Boker) (06/30/91)
In article <13483@pt.cs.cmu.edu> rab@speech1.cs.cmu.edu (Robert Brennan) writes: > I am looking for a new pair of 9600 baud modems. I have been using two > Trailblazers very successfully but we need to purchase additional modems. I must put in a vote for Trailblazer here. I have an old trailblazer plus which Telebit has upgraded twice for free (Yoiks!). These people have been the some of the most knowlegeable and conscientious technical support folks I've ever encountered. No connection with Telebit other than as a recipient of the new ROMs which upgrade my Trailblazer to V.42bis. -- #====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====# # Steve Boker # "Two's bifurcation # # smb@data.com # but three's chaotic" # #====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#
kherron@ms.uky.edu (Kenneth Herron) (06/30/91)
smb@data.com (Steven M. Boker) writes: >In article <13483@pt.cs.cmu.edu> rab@speech1.cs.cmu.edu (Robert Brennan) >writes: >> I am looking for a new pair of 9600 baud modems. I have been using two >> Trailblazers very successfully but we need to purchase additional modems. >I must put in a vote for Trailblazer here. I concur. Telebit Tech support is far and away better than that of any other company I've dealt with. Telebit manuals are the best I've seen. And they stand behind their product; I've received a free replacement power supply for my out-of-warranty T1000, and am right now testing a free ROM upgrade for one of our Trailblazers (needed because of their change to PEP). Companies like Telebit deserve to be supported. -- Kenneth Herron kherron@ms.uky.edu University of Kentucky +1 606 257 2975 Department of Mathematics "So this won't be a total loss, can you make it so guys get to throw their mothers-in-law in?" "Sure, why not?"
hartzell@sumex-aim.Stanford.EDU (George Hartzell) (07/01/91)
In article <1991Jun30.024722.18414@ms.uky.edu> kherron@ms.uky.edu (Kenneth Herron) writes: smb@data.com (Steven M. Boker) writes: >In article <13483@pt.cs.cmu.edu> rab@speech1.cs.cmu.edu (Robert Brennan) >writes: >> I am looking for a new pair of 9600 baud modems. I have been using two >> Trailblazers very successfully but we need to purchase additional modems. >I must put in a vote for Trailblazer here. I concur. Telebit Tech support is far and away better than that of any other company I've dealt with. Telebit manuals are the best I've seen. And they stand behind their product; I've received a free replacement power supply for my out-of-warranty T1000, and am right now testing a free ROM upgrade for one of our Trailblazers (needed because of their change to PEP). Companies like Telebit deserve to be supported. [This is part of an ongoing discussion. Before going with Telebit based on past performance, go back and skim this thread. Pay attention to Marty's (likier@telebit.com) article about Telebit's diversification and allocation of scarce resources to non-modem projects.] It is sentiment like this that encouraged me to buy my T1600's. Based on their past performance I figured I wouldn't have to dig too deep when the time came to upgrade the newly designed T1600 to the V.32bis standard. I am quite disturbed by the news that this upgrade will cost ~$250. Apparently the engineers designing the T1600 did not give it (or maybe management chose to not have them give it, who knows...) enough muscle to do V.32bis, so a hardware swap is necessary. I wonder what that hardware *really* cost Telebit. Not including development costs, advertising, support, etc... I agree that these things need to be recovered, but I already paid for that when I bought the modem the first time around. The thought that they might be using this as an opportunity to make money on me twice only makes me feel more like I made a mistake. One was to summarize my feelings on this matter is that I never intended to buy a V.32 modem, I was shopping for a V.32bis modem. I was willing to consider vendors who didn't quite have their V.32bis modem out yet, but only those whose product might be "worth the wait" and whose past performance suggested that the upgrade path wouldn't be too traumatic. Like I said in a previous article, I'm going to sit tight until the upgrade is really available and all the facts are in before I decide once and for all whether or not I made a mistake. I'm not too optimistic though; it appears that the outcome is going to be that I could have three V.32bis modems with 6 months time in the field for the price my two Telebits. Loyalty can be quite expensive... g. -- George Hartzell voice: (415) 725-7421 Stanford Yeast Genome Project fax: (415)-723-7016 Stanford School of Medicine, Rm S337 email: hartzell@sumex-aim.Stanford.EDU Stanford, CA 94305-5120