[gnu.emacs.gnus] gnus-use-generic-path problems

ckd@bu-pub.bu.edu (Christopher K Davis) (08/01/89)

I'm having problems with gnus 3.12 (emacs 18.54 on bass (berkeley-unix)).

I'm using gnus-use-generic-from to get the MXer for the workstation cluster
on the header (at least all my postings to *.test came up with
ckd@bu-pub.bu.edu... just watch it break now ;-), but I can't get
gnus-use-generic-path to fix the path from "bu-cs!ckd" to
"bu-cs!bu-pub!ckd" by doing a (setq gnus-use-generic-path "bu-cs!bu-pub").

The NNTP server I'm using is bu-it.bu.edu (aka nntp.bu.edu) but the path
still reads bu-cs!user.

Any ideas?
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shadow@pawl.rpi.edu (Deven T. Corzine) (08/02/89)

On 1 Aug 89 10:03:58 GMT,
ckd@bu-pub.bu.edu (Christopher K Davis) said:

[problems with Path: line]

Christopher> Any ideas?

(setq gnus-use-generic-from t
      gnus-use-generic-path "bu-pub")

maybe?  [works for me]

Deven
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ckd@bu-pub.bu.edu (Christopher K Davis) (08/02/89)

In article <*@pawl.rpi.edu> shadow@pawl.rpi.edu (Deven T. Corzine) writes:
- On 1 Aug 89 10:03:58 GMT,
- ckd@bu-pub.bu.edu (Christopher K Davis) said:

- [problems with Path: line]

-Christopher> Any ideas?

- (setq gnus-use-generic-from t
- gnus-use-generic-path "bu-pub")

- maybe?  [works for me]

I currently have:
 (setq gnus-use-generic-from "bu-pub.bu.edu")  ;; use the server not the w/s
 (setq gnus-use-generic-path "bu-cs!bu-pub")   ;; aim path at us for dumb sites

This doesn't seem to work.  Why?  Damfino.

- Deven
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shadow@pawl.rpi.edu (Deven T. Corzine) (08/03/89)

On 2 Aug 89 11:44:30 GMT, ckd@bu-pub.bu.edu (Christopher K Davis) said:
In article <*@pawl.rpi.edu> shadow@pawl.rpi.edu (Deven T. Corzine) writes:
On 1 Aug 89 10:03:58 GMT, ckd@bu-pub.bu.edu (Christopher K Davis) said:

Christopher> [problems with Path: line]

Christopher> Any ideas?

Deven> (setq gnus-use-generic-from t
Deven>       gnus-use-generic-path "bu-pub")

Deven> maybe?  [works for me]

Christopher> I currently have:
Christopher>  (setq gnus-use-generic-from "bu-pub.bu.edu")
Christopher>    ;; use the server not the w/s
Christopher>  (setq gnus-use-generic-path "bu-cs!bu-pub")
Christopher>    ;; aim path at us for dumb sites

Christopher> This doesn't seem to work.  Why?  Damfino.

As I recall, (I built my setup while studying the GNUS documentation)
gnus-use-generic-from is t or nil.  (Or, maybe it does try to use it
if it is neither.)  Anyway, try setting gnus-use-generic-from to t,
gnus-use-generic-path to "bu-pub" (bu-cs will prepend the "bu-cs!",
assuming that's your NNTP server) and set gnus-your-domain to
"bu-pub.bu.edu", which it will use to construct your From: line.  [I
believe that's how gnus-use-generic-from works -- by suppressing the
hostname and only using the domain, unless you give a string or nil.]
You might want to also set gnus-user-login-name, gnus-user-full-name
and gnus-your-organization.

This is the setup I'm using, and it works flawlessly for me.  [check
the headers on this messge]

Deven
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ckd@bu-pub.bu.edu (Christopher K Davis) (08/03/89)

On 2 Aug 89 18:24:26 GMT, (and earlier)
shadow@pawl.rpi.edu (Deven T. Corzine) said:

Christopher> [problems with Path: line]

Christopher> Any ideas?

Deven> (setq gnus-use-generic-from t
Deven>       gnus-use-generic-path "bu-pub")

Deven> maybe?  [works for me]

Christopher> I currently have:
Christopher>  (setq gnus-use-generic-from "bu-pub.bu.edu")
Christopher>    ;; use the server not the w/s
Christopher>  (setq gnus-use-generic-path "bu-cs!bu-pub")
Christopher>    ;; aim path at us for dumb sites

Christopher> This doesn't seem to work.  Why?  Damfino.

Deven> As I recall, (I built my setup while studying the GNUS documentation)
Deven> gnus-use-generic-from is t or nil.  (Or, maybe it does try to use it
Deven> if it is neither.)  Anyway, try setting gnus-use-generic-from to t,
Deven> gnus-use-generic-path to "bu-pub" (bu-cs will prepend the "bu-cs!",
Deven> assuming that's your NNTP server) and set gnus-your-domain to
Deven> "bu-pub.bu.edu", which it will use to construct your From: line.  [I
Deven> believe that's how gnus-use-generic-from works -- by suppressing the
Deven> hostname and only using the domain, unless you give a string or nil.]
Deven> You might want to also set gnus-user-login-name, gnus-user-full-name
Deven> and gnus-your-organization.

The From: line is still working fine.  The Path: line (no matter what
string I give to gnus-use-generic-path) doesn't.  (The Path: line isn't
really a big issue for me; sites that have that set as the reply address
deserve bouncemail. :-)

I've got the Organization: set up (I think) and gnus seems to find my
userid and realname fairly easily.

Oh well.

Deven> Deven
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 \    |\   | /  <for stupid sendmails>     |      BITNET: smghy6c@buacca 
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 ** IF YOU REPLY TO THE ADDRESS IN THE PATH: LINE IT *WILL* BOUNCE!!! --CKD **

shadow@pawl.rpi.edu (Deven T. Corzine) (08/03/89)

Christopher> I've got the Organization: set up (I think) and gnus
Christopher> seems to find my userid and realname fairly easily.

It normally will.  You can leave those alone if you like how it
defaults them.  Now, will you just TRY this?  [trust me!!]

(setq gnus-use-generic-from t
      gnus-gnus-use-generic-path "bu-pub"
      gnus-your-domain "bu-pub.bu.edu")

This is how I do it -- gnus-use-generic-path is "pawl", "rpi.edu" is
my NNTP server, and GNUS generates "Path: pawl!shadow" while rpi.edu
modifies it to "Path: rpi!pawl!shadow" [which is a valid path]...

If it doesn't work, then worry about it.  I give it 95%+ odds of
working.  [Take this to Email hereafter.]

Deven
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