greg@hoss.unl.edu (Lig Lury Jr.) (05/13/91)
hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu (Mathew A Hennessy) writes: >Peter.G.Wilding@dartmouth.edu (Peter G. Wilding) writes: >>Yep, ProTERM is it. Tell your friend to get that. It fits on one >>floppy disk, and the other drive which your friend has will be >>available for transfers or whatever. ProTERM supports a huge number of >>interfaces and modems. ProTERM was just released in a new version (too >>bad some bugs still remain), and it is getting completely overhauled >>for a later release. Definitely tell your friend to get ProTERM. It's >>the easiest to use term program around. Yeah, it'll fit on a 5.25" disk, but that doesn't leave enough space for macros and a dialing list, unless you've got them formatted for 40 tracks. Myself, I keep it in my /RAM5 on my IIgs. >Yes, ProTERM is one program I miss moving to the MSDOS world from >Apple... I especially miss the scrollback buffer and unshakeable autolearn >macros.. Hmm, I have trouble getting them to work in connection with L&L Support, which is now having you hit ESCAPE before you login, due to them running Fruity-Dog, for Fido-Net access. Then again, they do keep changing the login text. (Anyone notice that L&L no-longer prints the GBBS copyright notice on logoff? Hmm...) >Do you know offhand whether ProTERM will have ANSI color anytime soon >(the apple's weakest link besides speed)? I don't think so. I think the only thing you can hope for is ANSI monochrome, since you'd have to use either the DHGR mode or 640 mode on the IIgs. There are no plans to create a IIgs specific ProTERM. The only ANSI term for the Apple II series I know of is AGATE, with v0.69 allowing Zmodem. >I still remember making ProTERM >animations (ProTERM has its own special term protocol, and it's got most of >the special ANSI chars in mousetext.), veritable works of art. BUZZ! The "special ANSI chars" are not part of ANSI. The graphics characters come from the high end of the IBM character set, and are not part of the ANSI standard. >Hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu ProTERM's biggest problem right now is with Zmodem. With the machines here, I can't transfer anything reliably without 8th bit quoting, which ProTERM doesn't recognize. Also the VT100 still has one bug that bugs me. When doing an ASCII-Send, the top-of-screen bar shows up and starts corrupting the scrollback. NOTE: I know enough to turn the thing bar off in vt-100 mode. It is calling it back when it does an ASCII Send, with undesirable results. Hmm, perhaps this thread has drifted too far from the topic of alt.bbs, and should be sent over to comp.sys.apple2? -- /// ____ \\\ |"What? What's going on? Who's this?... Ladies and | |/ / \ \| | | Gentlemen, a big hand please for the Great Prophet Zarquon." \\_|\____/|_// |"Uh, thank you, sorry I'm late, so many things cropping up at greg \_\\\/ hoss | the last moment. How are we for time? Have I just got a min
greg@hoss.unl.edu (Lig Lury Jr.) (05/18/91)
grohol@novavax.UUCP (John Grohol) writes: >My only question for ProTERM is: Whay after all these years doesn't it >support color and ANSI graphics, two things almost all other (even >COMMIE's!!) support!! I hope v3.0 (due out this summer) corrects this. Think. How are you going to get decent 80-column ANSI emulation with IBM graphic characters and color codes without moving up to an Apple IIgs? The authors have stated categorically that a IIgs specific version will not be written. You want ANSI text? Either get AGATE, or an IBM. > John M. Grohol || Nova University > Internet: grohol@novavax.nova.edu || Center for Psychological Studies And dammit, ANSI doesn't have graphics. It is just the extension of the IBM character set, as MouseText is for the Apple II series. -- /// ____ \\\ Lig "By the way, what does teleport mean?" "Where | |/ / \ \| | Lury does it say teleport!" "Oh, right over here, just \\_|\____/|_// Jr. below the word Emergency, above the word `System', greg \_\\\/ hoss.unl.edu and next to a sign which says `Out of Order'."