johny@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Lord Yak Da Hairy) (12/10/90)
There's been some discussion recently on comp.sys.acorn (and also in eunet.micro.acorn) about the posting of binaries to those groups. It's looking like a separate binaries group would be a good idea, and so I propose the creation of comp.binaries.acorn. My personal feeling is that the group should be moderated; the moderator would check that the programs worked, that they had no trojans or viruses, and that they actually uncompressed properly... Comments, anyone? -- John Yeates (Lord Yak Da Hairy) -------------------------------------------- -- johny@syma.susx.ac.uk OR johny@cogs.susx.ac.uk | THIS SPACE FOR HIRE! -- (Mail to COGS is up again, but use SYMA anyway) | CALL (0273) 688034! You may get rich selling letters, but beware of being blackmailed!
mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) (12/14/90)
rcpieter@svin02.info.win.tue.nl (Tiggr) writes: > mathew@mantis.UUCP (mathew) writes: > >Some of us are on UUCP sites. Some of us have to pay to download news. > > Sure, you have said that before. > > Currently the number binary postings in comp.sys.acorn is close to zero > articles per day (in fact: one binary since comp.sys.acorn was newgrouped). > Kinda strange to start a new group with an expected traffic volume of zero > articles a day, right? Perhaps they are being polite and not posting binaries to a discussion group? I suggest that all readers of comp.sys.acorn who WOULD post binaries instead post a message saying "I would have posted <program name> in the binaries group". That way we'll quickly get an idea as to whether the demand's there. If it turns out that there isn't enough demand, how about keeping eunet.micro.acorn for binaries, and leaving comp.sys.acorn for discussions? mathew. -- Mantis Consultants, Unit 56, St. John's Innovation Centre, Cambridge. CB4 4WS. mathew@mantis.co.uk \\ "CP/M is to metric as cockroaches are to a Timex watch" ukc!ibmpcug!mantis!mathew -------------------\\ - booter@catnip.berkeley.ca.us
rcpieter@svin02.info.win.tue.nl (Tiggr) (12/16/90)
mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) writes: >If it turns out that there isn't enough demand, how about keeping >eunet.micro.acorn for binaries, and leaving comp.sys.acorn for discussions? This is even worse! comp.sys.acorn was created to have a world-wide replacement for the european-only eunet.micro.acorn. There have always been binaries in eunet.micro.acorn, and with comp.sys.acorn replacing eunet.micro.acorn there is no reason that binaries should not be posted to comp.sys.acorn. Tiggr
andras@alzabo.uucp (Andras Kovacs) (12/17/90)
In article <Zg96T9w163w@mantis.co.uk> mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) writes: > >If it turns out that there isn't enough demand, how about keeping >eunet.micro.acorn for binaries, and leaving comp.sys.acorn for discussions? Please don't do that. I'm not getting eunet.micro.acorn (isn't eunet for Europe?) and I'm already afraid that I'm losing out on some excellent traffic. Actually, is there any archive which has the Arc specific stuff which went on in eunet.micro.acorn? -- Andras Kovacs andras@alzabo.UUCP
andy@acorn.co.uk (Andy Ingle) (12/20/90)
rcpieter@svin02.info.win.tue.nl (Tiggr) writes: >This is even worse! comp.sys.acorn was created to have a world-wide >replacement for the european-only eunet.micro.acorn. There have always >been binaries in eunet.micro.acorn, and with comp.sys.acorn replacing >eunet.micro.acorn there is no reason that binaries should not be posted >to comp.sys.acorn. I couldn't agree more! Very few of the {comp.sys,eunet.micro}.acorn articles contain binaries, why create a new group just to please a few penny-pinching system administrators. At the moment the traffic on comp.sys.acorn is fairly light, partly because some people are still posting to eunet.micro.acorn only. If you can't afford to take a few binaries don't take the group at all. A binaries vote should only take place when there is an average of (say) 40 or more new articles each day in comp.sys.acorn and at least 10 of these are binaries. If someone were to take a vote today I would vote NO. Cluttering up the namespace with lots of seldom-used newsgroups is just stupid. --Andy Ingle -- "Well, I wanted fur to know what hedgehogs lives on: so I be a-keeping this here hedgehog - fur to see if it eats potatoes --" "Much better keep a potato," said the Professor; "and see if hedgehogs eat it!" -- Lewis Carroll
mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) (12/21/90)
andy@acorn.co.uk (Andy Ingle) writes: > If you can't > afford to take a few binaries don't take the group at all. Hey, that's a great way to encourage propagation of the group, and hence persuade more people to take an interest in Acorn machines. You must be in marketing, right? mathew. [ I hope you have a sarcasm detector. ] -- Mantis Consultants, Unit 56, St. John's Innovation Centre, Cambridge. CB4 4WS. mathew@mantis.co.uk \\ "CP/M is to metric as cockroaches are to a Timex watch" ukc!ibmpcug!mantis!mathew -------------------\\ - booter@catnip.berkeley.ca.us
chughes@maths.tcd.ie (Conrad Hughes) (02/19/91)
In <1763@svin02.info.win.tue.nl> rcpieter@wsinti02.info.win.tue.nl (Tiggr) writes: >The creation of both a comp.sources.acorn and a comp.binaries.acorn has >been propsed. The question is whether or not this is wanted. What is >the general opinion on this (I need to know before I can issue a proper >call for votes). Judging by the fact that nobody has posted binaries in the past few weeks, so they can post to comp.binaries.acorn, I'd say the general opinion is that it _is_ wanted. Otherwise we get no more binaries :-( Conrad -- Man never fights to win; It is better that he fight in vain. Cyrano de Bergerac
gpvos@cs.vu.nl (Gerben 'P' Vos) (02/20/91)
chughes@maths.tcd.ie (Conrad Hughes) writes: >In <1763@svin02.info.win.tue.nl> rcpieter@wsinti02.info.win.tue.nl (Tiggr) writes: >>The creation of both a comp.sources.acorn and a comp.binaries.acorn has >>been propsed. The question is whether or not this is wanted. What is >>the general opinion on this (I need to know before I can issue a proper >>call for votes). >Judging by the fact that nobody has posted binaries in the past few weeks, so >they can post to comp.binaries.acorn, I'd say the general opinion is that it >_is_ wanted. Otherwise we get no more binaries :-( Of course, almost everyone wants the binaries group. But, do you want only a binaries group (which may also carry sources), or both a sources group and a binaries group? It looks like most people are neutral on this. Any ideas? And BTW, please keep the discussion in news.groups . I've redirected follow-ups to this. - Gerben -- --- Gerben Vos - Aconet: BIGBEN!Gerben Vos - Internet: gpvos@cs.vu.nl ---- Should I put something funny here?
mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) (02/20/91)
chughes@maths.tcd.ie (Conrad Hughes) writes: > In <1763@svin02.info.win.tue.nl> rcpieter@wsinti02.info.win.tue.nl (Tiggr) wr > >The creation of both a comp.sources.acorn and a comp.binaries.acorn has > >been propsed. The question is whether or not this is wanted. What is > >the general opinion on this (I need to know before I can issue a proper > >call for votes). > > Judging by the fact that nobody has posted binaries in the past few weeks, so > they can post to comp.binaries.acorn, I'd say the general opinion is that it > _is_ wanted. Otherwise we get no more binaries :-( Try reading the first line again. Now, do you want A. comp.binaries.acorn B. comp.binaries.acorn + comp.sources.acorn C. comp.binaries.acorn with occasional source postings in it D. green (*) E. none of the above mathew [ (*) As is well known to exam candidates, every multiple choice question has one answer which is blatantly wrong. ]
cs9h9tts@cybaswan.UUCP (t.simpson) (02/21/91)
In article <wRaoX6w163w@mantis.co.uk> mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) writes: >chughes@maths.tcd.ie (Conrad Hughes) writes: > C. comp.binaries.acorn with occasional source postings in it this one sounds best to me. Tom.
rogersh%t5j@uk.ac.man.cs (Huw J. Rogers) (02/21/91)
In article <wRaoX6w163w@mantis.co.uk> mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) writes: > >Now, do you want > A. comp.binaries.acorn > B. comp.binaries.acorn + comp.sources.acorn > C. comp.binaries.acorn with occasional source postings in it > D. green (*) > E. none of the above > Personally I reckon C. Two separate newsgroups would be OTT. But please hurry up with comp.binaries.acorn. How does USENET do the CFD, CFV procedure, and how long will it take? Huw [ H.J.Rogers (INTERNET: rogersh%p4%cs.man.ac.uk@cunyvm.cuny.edu) ] [ ,_, (BITNET/EARN: rogersh%p4%cs.man.ac.uk@UKACRL.BITNET) ] [ :-(_)-o (UUCP: ...!uunet!cunyvm.cuny.edu!cs.man.ac.uk!p4!rogersh) ] [ _} {_ (JANET: rogersh%p4@uk.ac.man.cs) ]
csuaw@warwick.ac.uk (Patrick Clark) (02/22/91)
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