chet@retix.retix.COM (Chet Mazur) (10/13/89)
Is there an NFS client available for the mac??? if not, are there and other means of having a shared Unix/mac files system (the unix is SCO or Interactive SYS V)... Thanks,
tim@hoptoad.uucp (Tim Maroney) (10/16/89)
In article <500@retix.retix.COM> chet@retix.retix.COM (Chet Mazur) writes: >Is there an NFS client available for the mac??? if not, are there and >other means of having a shared Unix/mac files system (the unix is SCO >or Interactive SYS V)... Don't you people ever notice that this question gets asked almost once a week on this newsgroup? Enough already! The answer is: Such a product has been created, at the University of Michigan, on Apple's behalf. No one likes it very much and it has not been released. The other solution, which does have some fans, is Cayman's Gatorbox, which is an AFP server with NFS as its native file system, so that it acts as an effective gateway. I don't know whether they've conquered the reliability problems yet, but you can find plenty of people to chat about it on comp.protocols.appletalk, which is where you should have asked the question in the first place. TOPS and NFS were originally going to merge, but TOPS finally figured out (long after I told them, and quit in frustration over being ignored) that this could never work, and now TOPS is on its way out of Sun -- that is, Sun's trying to sell the company. The rumor is a management buyout, but we'll have to wait and see. In any case, if you were foolish enough to listen to TOPS's schpiel about an NFS/TOPS protocol merge, then you're SOL. -- Tim Maroney, Mac Software Consultant, sun!hoptoad!tim, tim@toad.com "I wouldn't work for Dukakis if my life depended on it. I've worked for Greeks and I know just how filthy and stinking they can be." -- Caller, KGO-AM, 8 Nov 88
honey@citi.umich.edu (Peter Honeyman) (10/19/89)
Tim Maroney writes: >The answer is: Such a product has been created, at the University of >Michigan, on Apple's behalf. No one likes it very much and it has not >been released. tim, i certainly like macnfs very much. and my impression is that other people like it very much too. other people who have used it, anyway. peter
jdarcy@multimax.UUCP (Jeff d'Arcy) (10/19/89)
> tim, i certainly like macnfs very much. and my impression is that other > people like it very much too. other people who have used it, anyway. Of course you like it; you're at CITI. The issue is whether anyone outside of that "fine organization" appreciates macnfs's "better" qualities. Jeff d'Arcy jdarcy@encore.com "Quack!" Encore has provided the medium, but the message remains my own Jeff d'Arcy jdarcy@encore.com "Quack!" Encore has provided the medium, but the message remains my own
geoff@hinode.East.Sun.COM (Geoff Arnold @ Sun BOS - R.H. coast near the top) (10/20/89)
In article <10165@encore.Encore.COM> jdarcy@multimax.UUCP (Jeff d'Arcy) writes: >> tim, i certainly like macnfs very much. and my impression is that other >> people like it very much too. other people who have used it, anyway. > >Of course you like it; you're at CITI. The issue is whether anyone outside >of that "fine organization" appreciates macnfs's "better" qualities. Well, I like what I've seen of it. (I'm allowed to say that, aren't I? :-) Both macnfs and Cayman's Gatorbox do a creditable job of coping with the arcane and haphazard Mac file system. Can anyone who's worked extensively with A/UX (did I get the slash in the right place?) comment on how well Apple handled the problems of viewing the Mac FS from Unix and vice versa? Geoff Geoff Arnold, Internet: geoff@East.Sun.COM PCDS Group, Sun Microsystems Inc. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Who's next?" "Me, doctor?" "No, ME doctor, YOU patient." (Graham Chapman, RIP)
amanda@intercon.com (Amanda Walker) (10/21/89)
In article <940@east.East.Sun.COM>, geoff@hinode.East.Sun.COM (Geoff Arnold @ Sun BOS - R.H. coast near the top) writes: > Can anyone who's worked extensively with A/UX (did I get the slash in > the right place?) comment on how well Apple handled the problems of viewing > the Mac FS from Unix and vice versa? In A/UX 1.1, they did a pretty good job of mapping the file system itself (using AppleDouble files), but it's only basic HFS--no desktop manager, etc. The biggest problem is that a lot of things that are cheap on a local file system involve lots of NFS transactions (like directory lookups). File operations are some of the simpler ones to map... Concerning MacNFS in particular, I am wondering how much of the alleged delay in its release is due to Apple's evident dislike for distributing code that other people have rights to? If the CITI folks used a lot of the Sun NFS client code, I can see how Apple's lawyers could be raising, um, heck :-). -- Amanda Walker <amanda@intercon.com> "Tobacco is the only drug in America that will kill you if it's taken as directed." --Dr. C. Everett Koop, former U.S. Surgeon General
dd@ariel.unm.edu (dd) (11/25/89)
In article <1989Oct19.020908.24069@terminator.cc.umich.edu> honey@citi.umich.edu (Peter Honeyman) writes: >Tim Maroney writes: >>The answer is: Such a product has been created, at the University of >>Michigan, on Apple's behalf. No one likes it very much and it has not >>been released. > >tim, i certainly like macnfs very much. and my impression is that other >people like it very much too. other people who have used it, anyway. > > peter Hmmm... I have been away from the net for a while, but the last time I was using the net heavily, it seemed that the status was, "created by CITI, owned by Apple, check with Apple to see when you can buy it." If this beast is publicly available now, I am in desperate need of it. If someone can direct me to someone with accurate information, I would surely appreciate it! -- Don Doerner dd@ariel.unm.edu University of New Mexico CIRT 2701 Campus Blvd, NE Albuquerque, NM, 87131 (505) 277-8036
kdb@InterCon.com (Kurt Baumann) (11/28/89)
It is still wait and see. I have heard that there are Beta/Alpha copies outside of Apple, but I haven't seen any. It should be out with System 7.0 would be my guess. --