[comp.protocols.nfs] NFS for Macintosh.

hacke@MDC.COM (03/31/89)

Does anyone know of an NFS client for a Macintosh runnung Mac-OS?  Does

I know about the Gator Box.  I am looking for NFS that could be run
on a Mac with an Ethernet card in it.

Keith Hacke
hacke@mdc.com

geertj@nlgvax.UUCP (Geert Jan de Groot) (04/01/89)

In article <8903302307.AA18426@bcm.tmc.edu> hacke@MDC.COM writes:
>Does anyone know of an NFS client for a Macintosh runnung Mac-OS?  Does
[I miss a line here?]
>I know about the Gator Box.  I am looking for NFS that could be run
>on a Mac with an Ethernet card in it.

I am also interested in NFS for the MAC. If you find anything, let me
know!

Currently, I networked a mac using TOPS by SUN, using a ethernetcard by Apple.
This approach will (sort of) allow similar things, that is, using files
from a SUN filesystem. It does have some problems:

 - It does not allow sharing of executables. I think this is a MacOSism:
   for instance, Hypercard apperently needs write permission (and ownership
   of the user for the executable).
   Therefore, it is impossible to build a central place for executables,
   and restrict write access to 'disencourage' viruses.
 - Filenaming is a headache. TOPS allows spaces in a user's filename,
   and builds a weird construction for the resource fork.
 - TOPS does not allow redirecting printeroutput to a laserwriter connected
   to a SUN network. It is impossible to spool to a SUN printer from
   a MAC.
 - Using an ethernet card switches off the appletalk connection. Which
   makes an appletalk printer unreachable. This results in making
   local copies of print output, switching the MAC to appletalk,
   reboot (it crashes otherwise - I don't know why), printing, and
   switching back. A (hard-) diskless client is about unusable.
 - First-time installation does not work for the SUN software.
   Workaround: install it, and re-install....

A Fastpath box is said to be a solution. It has an appletalk connection
on one end, and ethernet on the other. It is about as expensive as a MAC
itself :-(. Moreover, we have multiple MACs spread around in the lab, and
only ethernet, no appletalk wiring, we should need a fastpath for every
MAC, kinda expensive.

Hey geoff, how about MAC-NFS :-) ?

Geert Jan


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tim@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Timothy Lange) (11/10/90)

I know about InterCon's product, NFS/Share, are there any other makers
of NFS type network support for Macs?

kdb@macaw.intercon.com (Kurt Baumann) (11/13/90)

In article <16367@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, tim@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Timothy
Lange) writes:
> I know about InterCon's product, NFS/Share, are there any other makers
> of NFS type network support for Macs?

Yes besides ours there are the following.

Wollongong's MacPathWay NFS Client
Cayman's GatorShare (which converts from NFS to AppleShare, requires a server)

Hope that helps.
--
Kurt Baumann                       InterCon Systems Corporation
703.709.9890                      Creators of fine TCP/IP products
703.709.9896 FAX               for the Macintosh.

lefty@twg.com (David N. Schlesinger) (11/15/90)

In article <16367@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> tim@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Timothy 
Lange) writes:
> I know about InterCon's product, NFS/Share, are there any other makers
> of NFS type network support for Macs?

Yes, we have a product which is currently shipping: Pathway Client/NFS.  
You can call the number below to get more information about it.

Pathway Client/NFS implements an NFS client directly on the Macintosh, 
allowing access to mount points on remote hosts as though they were Macintosh 
volumes.  This includes full support of the Macintosh Finder, as well as Desktop file support (icons, comments, etc.)  The product is built on top of Apple's MacTCP stack.

The product is a Control Panel device; it is installed on the Mac simply by 
dragging it to the System Folder.

Simultaneous access to multiple hosts/mount points is supported.  It will work 
with most Mac Ethernet cards, as well as most LocalTalk/Ethernet gateways.  
Sun's LOCKD is supported, and authentication is done via PCNFSD.

Hope this helps.

--
David N. Schlesinger (lefty@twg.com)
Sr. Software Engineer
The Wollongong Group
415/962-7100

kdb@macaw.intercon.com (Kurt Baumann) (11/16/90)

In article <8282@gollum.twg.com>, lefty@twg.com (David N. Schlesinger) writes:
> The product is a Control Panel device; it is installed on the Mac simply by 
> dragging it to the System Folder.
> 

Our NFS works by also droping it into the System Folder, but ours is a Chooser
device.  I am sure that we could have many philosophical discussions as to
why we did it this way and Wollongong did it the other way, our view being
that the Chooser is where things of this nature belong (alla, AppleShare).

> Simultaneous access to multiple hosts/mount points is supported.  It will work 
> with most Mac Ethernet cards, as well as most LocalTalk/Ethernet gateways.  
> Sun's LOCKD is supported, and authentication is done via PCNFSD.

Quick question for you Dave, how do you support LOCKD?  In the manual that
we have for your product it doesn't say that you do.  Just curious, and if
you do support LOCKD then you should state so in the manual.  In fact on
page 1-5 it says "Sun's LOCKD is not supported.", it states above that you
support this functinality through NFSAD.  I just wanted to know if the manual
is wrong here.

Also is NFSAD PD software, or something the Wollongong wrote?  Thanks!
--
Kurt Baumann                       InterCon Systems Corporation
703.709.9890                      Creators of fine TCP/IP products
703.709.9896 FAX               for the Macintosh.

beame@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Carl Beame) (11/16/90)

In article <27430851.6BEB@intercon.com> kdb@macaw.intercon.com (Kurt Baumann) writes:
>> with most Mac Ethernet cards, as well as most LocalTalk/Ethernet gateways.  
>> Sun's LOCKD is supported, and authentication is done via PCNFSD.
>
>Quick question for you Dave, how do you support LOCKD?  In the manual that
>we have for your product it doesn't say that you do.  Just curious, and if
>you do support LOCKD then you should state so in the manual.  In fact on
>page 1-5 it says "Sun's LOCKD is not supported.", it states above that you
>support this functinality through NFSAD.  I just wanted to know if the manual
>is wrong here.
>
>Also is NFSAD PD software, or something the Wollongong wrote?  Thanks!
>--
>Kurt Baumann                       InterCon Systems Corporation
>703.709.9890                      Creators of fine TCP/IP products
>703.709.9896 FAX               for the Macintosh.

	I beleive (I will be corrected if wrong) that NFSAD is BWNFSD with
one small modification. BWNFSD is a authentication/print/lock daemon created
for BWNFS for DOS (Beame & Whiteside Software Ltd.)

	- Carl Beame
	Beame@McMaster.CA

P.S: We support PCNFSD and rpc.lockd also.