[comp.protocols.nfs] PC-NFS Works with DOS 5, A needed change to SUN's PCNFSD, Mac NFS

hhg1@GTE.COM (Hallett German) (01/11/91)

1. PC-NFS works well with DOS 5.0. The Dos shell sees the network drive.
   Just thought I mention this.
2. I am having a problem with Mac-NFS (See 3). Wollongong suggested that
   SUN add an option to the PCNFSD server to set the attributes of a
   file to be created.
3. I am trying to share files between a PC and a Mac. The PC uses Sun's
   PC-NFS, the MAC uses Wollongong's Pathway NFS. The NFS volume is
   using Wollongong's NFS for VMS. To copy a text file, I use ftp with
   no problems. For some reason, Wollongong has it set so any file with
   a VMS Executable protection is not seen as a text file and it will
   have no creator/type on the Mac. Removed the Executable option makes
   it ionto a text file. Going into VMS after every ftp is ridiculous.
   SET PROTECT/DEFAULT won't work. Wollongong said they may add this
   to their MACNFSAD daemon. This product has possibilities but
Wollongong seems to be selling a product that was not ready for market 
yet. A bug fix release in March is a good start

geoff@hinode.East.Sun.COM (Geoff Arnold @ Sun BOS - R.H. coast near the top) (01/14/91)

Quoth hhg1@GTE.COM (Hallett German) (in <10364@bunny.GTE.COM>):
#2. I am having a problem with Mac-NFS (See 3). Wollongong suggested that
#   SUN add an option to the PCNFSD server to set the attributes of a
#   file to be created.

Hallett obviously realizes this, but let me just emphasize that this
has absolutely nothing to do with PCNFSD... After all, if an NFS client
wishes to set the attributes of a remote file it can simply issue
RFS_GETTATTR and RFS_SETATTR RPCs. If TWG is in fact suggesting that
their VMS server needs to support additional over-the-wire mechanisms
above and beyond the set of services befined by the NFS protocol
spec, and that these services should somehow be integrated into
PCNFSD, I suggest that they're wrong: they should simply define (and publish)
an RPC spec for the service. The implementation details are secondary.

On the subject of PCNFSD enhancements, I'm still waiting for input (such
as the publication of the BWNFSD RPC which was discussed earlier). In
the X/Open PC Interworking Group we are considering our schedule for
revision of the (PC)NFS spec, and we need all the input (new PCNFSD's,
Mac stuff, etc. etc.) as soon as possible. (I am speaking here as a
member of the WG, not _for_ the WG.)

Geoff

-- Geoff Arnold, PC-NFS architect, Sun Microsystems. (geoff@East.Sun.COM)   --
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beame@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Carl Beame) (01/14/91)

	This is in response to several question about BWNFS.

1) BWNFS supports WordPerfect correctly and unlike PC-NFS and InterDrive,
   BWNFS spools the print jobs immediately after the job has been printed
   without user intervention.

2) BWNFS runs currectly under DOS 5.0 after running the command:
   "setver bwnfs.com 4.0". Geoff didn't comment on the claim that PC-NFS
   runs under DOS 5.0, but my guess (Geoff, please correct me if I am wrong)
   is that PC-NFS does run under DOS 5.0 as long as no multi-tasking is
   attempted.

3) BWNFSD is being placed on the "testsuite" tape for connectathon and I
   hope during connectathon we will have any issues resolved from the 
   NFS server vendors. After this I will post the resulting source with
   as many host operating systems IFDEFed.


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	Beame@McMaster.CA
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geoff@bodleian.East.Sun.COM (Geoff Arnold @ Sun BOS - R.H. coast near the top) (01/14/91)

Quoth beame@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Carl Beame) (in <27913395.10545@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca>):
#
#	This is in response to several question about BWNFS.
#[...]
#2) BWNFS runs currectly under DOS 5.0 after running the command:
#   "setver bwnfs.com 4.0". Geoff didn't comment on the claim that PC-NFS
#   runs under DOS 5.0, but my guess (Geoff, please correct me if I am wrong)
#   is that PC-NFS does run under DOS 5.0 as long as no multi-tasking is
#   attempted.

If, hypothetically, we were a beta test site for a new Microsoft
product called, for example, DOS 5.0, I believe that I would be
prohibited by the beta test agreement from discussing this on the net.
(As would anyone else in our - hypothetical - position, I presume.)

#3) BWNFSD is being placed on the "testsuite" tape for connectathon and I
#   hope during connectathon we will have any issues resolved from the 
#   NFS server vendors. After this I will post the resulting source with
#   as many host operating systems IFDEFed.

Excellent! We'll look forward to that.

-- Geoff Arnold, PC-NFS architect, Sun Microsystems. (geoff@East.Sun.COM)   --
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