[comp.protocols.nfs] Opinions on PC networking

ajayshah@alhena.usc.edu (Ajay Shah) (04/13/91)

In article <DROMS.91Apr12232208@jasper.bucknell.edu> droms@bucknell.edu writes:
>user - am I missing something major?  Is there an important reason
>*not* to choose PC-NFS or to choose some other network software?

Lets analyse the question.  The three major networking options
I know of are :
	Microsoft offerings
	Novell offerings
	NFS-based (neither server nor PC-software need be by Sun)

Microsoft's stuff is so terrible, I won't go into it.  I just
need tell you it's Microsoft: so stay away.  Proprietary, anemic,
ill-debugged, poor admin tools, ignorance of the computer industry,
etc., all the usual Microsoft signs.

The real competition is Novell vs. NFS.

I suspect (but I'm not sure) that Novell client-side software
gives better throughput than Sun's PC-NFS client-side software.
I also suspect that 99% of networking situations don't demand so
much by way of disk throughput.  Yours certainly doesn't.
Novell makes life more difficult by way of integrating into an
existing Unix network (ftp/telnet usage is harder).

The biggest reasons why I'd favour a NFS-based solution are:

	- when you boot a 386 box as Novell server, that machine is
	lost to the world.  It can't do anything else useful.  

	If you do Novell, you get locked into 386 machines.  
	The 386/486 machines are not the best price-performance 
	tradeoffs in the world these days.  Further, being the dying 
	end of an old architecture, it's not a good idea getting
	into 'em in the long run.

	NFS lets you do many different architecture platforms for the
	server: maybe an old Sun/3, maybe a 386, maybe a SPARC or
	Mips or HP RISC box.
	On a day the normal server is down, another workstation can
	fill in.  You have no hardware lock-ins.

	Further, even if you buy a dedicated 386 for server duty,
	if you boot it with Unix, then it's *useful* at all times.
	You can fire jobs on it -- it's not totally dedicated to
	server duty.  In my work, I would definitely fire low-grade
	large numbercruncher jobs on such a machine.

	- Novell locks you into Novell sysadmin software.  When
	you've paid the price of learning Unix, there is no earthly
	reason to have to deal with a bunch of proprietary tools
	(which don't pack the punch of Unix tools anyway).

	With a server which is (e.g.) a 386 booting Unix, your sysadmin
	stuff is normal Unix.  Things like find `awk 'xyzzy'` -exec etc
	work fine.  Normal backup procedures, yellow pages, etc.
	all work fine.

On the specific question of which NFS client software to get on a
PC, I think Sun's PC-NFS is not optimal.  I think the best
available is written by Beame and Whiteside.  It's cheaper,
faster, uses less PC memory, has more features and has a less 
intrusive copy protection scheme (it has no copy protection: how
much less intrusive can you get?).

B&W can be reached at 1-416-648-6556.  I have no connection with
them; I'm just about to fax 'em an order of a set of products for
me.

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Ajay Shah, (213)734-3930, ajayshah@usc.edu
                             The more things change, the more they stay insane.
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jbreeden@netcom.COM (John Breeden) (04/14/91)

In article <31913@usc> ajayshah@alhena.usc.edu (Ajay Shah) writes:
>Lets analyse the question.  The three major networking options
>I know of are :
>	Microsoft offerings
>	Novell offerings
>	NFS-based (neither server nor PC-software need be by Sun)
>
>Microsoft's stuff is so terrible, I won't go into it.  I just
>need tell you it's Microsoft: so stay away.  Proprietary, anemic,
>ill-debugged, poor admin tools, ignorance of the computer industry,
>etc., all the usual Microsoft signs.
>

And it's *real* comforting to know that Netware is *none* of the 
above :-) (:.,/s/Microsoft/Novell/g).

-- 
 John Robert Breeden, 
    jbreeden@netcom.com, apple!netcom!jbreeden, ATTMAIL:!jbreeden
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