dgerdes@uiucuxc.UUCP (12/22/83)
#N:uiucuxc:25600001:000:616 uiucuxc!dgerdes Dec 21 19:13:00 1983 A while ago there was a note that said armor wasn't worth much, if a Xorn hits you he is going to knock you down 20 hits, or something like that. well I just finished a game with -8 armor class, believe it or not. I was given a +3 plate mail and found 8 EA's. Well Nothing stopped me. (except dragons, i sort of left them sleep...) I was in a room with an umber hulk, wraith and purple worm. and survived. i just kept wailing on keys hoping i would hit the right things and finally killed them all. Needless to say it doesnt give one immunity to danger as i was killed on level 29 trapped between two purple worms.
rh@mit-eddie.UUCP (Randy Haskins) (01/05/84)
Xorn's can't hit you with a -8 armor class. In fact, the only things that can are Dragons and Purple Worms. See, the way it works is that monsters have an "intrinsic experience level." When the hit roll is figured, it uses the IEL in a way such that if monster is exp. lev. X, then it cannot hit you if your armor class is -X. Xorn's, Umber Hulks, Vampires, and Invisible Stalkers all are at 8. Dragons are 10 and Worms are 15! A Dragon, however, can hit you with flame, the chances just are reduced by better armor. (Note that Rust Monsters are level 5, so once you have AC -5, they can't hit it, so you win). After dungeon level 26, however, the monsters get one more exp. lev. for each level below 26. So X,U,I and V will have a 1/20 (or maybe 18, I'm not sure...) chance of hitting you at 27, 2/20 at 28, and so on. Even in my most extreme cheating, I've never been able to get below AC -15, so P's are the ones that hit. Of course, and adventurer like this is so moby that he can win easily, so we try diving into the dungeon and seeing how far we can get an still make it back out. -- Randwulf (Randy Haskins); Path= genrad!mit-eddie!rh
robison@eosp1.UUCP (Tobias D. Robison) (01/06/84)
In Rogue 3.6, there is a bug that allows you to get any AC you desire. I once played a game at AC -9. It was soooooooo boring.... - Toby Robison decvax!ittvax!eosp1!robison or: allegra!eosp1!robison (maybe: princeton!eosp1!robison)
jjb@pyuxnn.UUCP (J Bernardis) (01/06/84)
I just won a game of superrogue with an armor class of -13 (+17 banded mail).
What made the game interesting, though, was my +45 +36 bastard sword.
Jeff Bernardis, AT&T Western Electric @ Piscataway NJ
{eagle, allegra, cbosgd, ihnp4}!pyuxnn!jjbjim@randvax.ARPA (Jim Gillogly) (01/15/84)
-------- A friend and I cheated on armor class (V. 5.3) in order to create what we thought was an optimal "diver": the goal was to try to get down to level 100 before dying. As the previous writer said, the problem is that monsters get intrinsically more dangerous as you get deeper. As we went past level 50, for example (by this time strength was up to the max and uncheated weapon level was at +14,+8), even snakes were formidable monsters... and this is against AC -13 or so. Hence polymorphing becomes less valuable. We made it down to level 62 before getting Wormed. So, the challenge is this: how do you equip an adventurer to get as deep as possible? Has anybody gotten deeper? Jim Gillogly I/ / randvax!jim I_/ jim@rand-unix I
stephen@alberta.UUCP (Stephen Samuel) (01/21/84)
I know of one person who reached level 69 before he died of
starvation: At that level
a) It is next to impossible to kill a monster without magic.
b) he was IMMEDIATELY surrounded and unable to move.
(or kill monsters)
:. He droped a scare monster and died of starvation while trying
to kill....
Stephen Samuel