[net.games.rogue] weapons

rjnoe (09/14/82)

The best weapon for swinging is definitely the two-handed sword.  An
unenchanted (i.e. +0,+0) one will cause an average of 10.5 hit points
(D&D fans:  3d6) given a hit.  The long sword (avg. 5.5 hp) is only
slightly better than a mace (5 hp) with the spear and dagger a little
less damaging.

Of course, these are not the best weapons for launching in one way or
another.  A crossbow bolt (launched by crossbow--assuming +0,+0 again)
which hits can do the same damage as a long sword when it is swung.
Not in the same league as the two-handed sword, but you don't have to
be next to the monster.  An arrow when launched by a short bow can do
the same damage as a spear when thrown which averages 3.5 hp given a
hit (same as the dagger when jabbed--not thrown).

All other possibilities lag behind these.  In summary:

		Swung			Launched

	Two-handed Sword    10.5
	Long Sword           5.5	Crossbow bolt
	Mace		     5.0
	Spear		     4.5
	Dagger		     3.5	Spear; Arrow


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kos (09/20/82)

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uiucdcs!kos    Sep 18 15:31:00 1982

I just finished (well, had finished for me, actually) a game in which
I had THREE two-handed swords.  It certainly does nice damage, but it
seems like it is a minus to hit - I had the sword id'ed as a regular
+0,+0 sword, but just couldn't seem to hit anything with it.  Do you
need to have a higher strength to swing it with accuracy, or what?

Idea for Ken Arnold:  would it be possible to add something like a
shield to the game so that using the two-handed sword would offset
an AC mod?  (Obviously, you could either use the shield and swing a
long sword, or not use the shield while swinging a two-handed sword.)
Just a thought...

will (09/25/82)

I'm not sure about 5.2, but in 3.6 any strength of 17 or over
gives you a hit bonus, up to +3 for 18/100.
but what about 5.2, someone?  What is the scale for bonuses when
your strength jumps 17-18-19...?

					the Headhunter

avr@CS-Mordred (Andrew V Royappa) (05/17/84)

	Hi, could someone please tell me what exactly the uses
of spears and daggers are (other than for throwing), if any ?
Are we actually expected to fight with these things (I never do) ?

				Thanks,

					Andrew Royappa
					{decvax,ucbvax,ihnp4,pur-ee}!purdue!avr