[net.games.rogue] weapon ranks

steve@tellab3.UUCP (Steve Harpster) (05/20/84)

Can anyone out there tell me what the general "ranking" of weapons is?
Through experience, I have found out that a +0,+0 two-handed sword is
better than a +0,+0 mace. What about some of the other weapons? The
manual tells plenty about armor but nothing on weapons. What gives?

amigo@iwpba.UUCP (amigo) (05/22/84)

The following is from my copy of weapons.c for version 6.5 (a
variant of 5.2 (no, I cannot send anyone a copy of the source code
since I only have it in hard copy): 

WEAPON		TO HIT		DAMAGE
Mace		1d3		2d4
Long sword	1d2		1d10
Bow		1d1		1d1
Arrow		1d6		1d1
Dagger		1d4		1d6
Rock		1d4		1d2
Sling		0d0		0d0
2-handed sword	1d2		3d6
Dart		1d3		1d1
Crossbow	1d1		1d1
Crossbow bolt	1d10		1d2
Spear		1d6		1d8

			John Hobson
			AT&T Bell Labs--Naperville, IL
			ihnp4!iwpba!amigo

gs@mit-eddie.UUCP (Gordon Strong) (05/23/84)

I think you are a little confused.  From the looks of the weapon
rank columns, I would guess that the first column is the amount
of damage done when the weapon is thrown, and the second column
is the amount of damage done when the weapon is wielded.  It doesn't
make any sense to say that a weapon has a certain number of dice
(e.g. 1D4) "to hit".  Hit probability is probably determined by
such factors as magical enchantment of weapon, character level,
character strength (maybe), and armor class of the monster.  This
is just a guess based on AD&D experience.

Gordon Strong
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GS@MIT-XX

chenr@tilt.UUCP (Raymond Chen) (05/23/84)

>>The following is from my copy of weapons.c for version 6.5 (a
>>variant of 5.2 (no, I cannot send anyone a copy of the source code
>>since I only have it in hard copy): 

>>WEAPON		TO HIT		DAMAGE
>>Mace		1d3		2d4
>>Long sword	1d2		1d10
>>Bow		1d1		1d1
>>Arrow		1d6		1d1
>>Dagger		1d4		1d6
>>Rock		1d4		1d2
>>Sling		0d0		0d0
>>2-handed sword	1d2		3d6
>>Dart		1d3		1d1
>>Crossbow	1d1		1d1
>>Crossbow bolt	1d10		1d2
>>Spear		1d6		1d8

>>			John Hobson
>>			AT&T Bell Labs--Naperville, IL
>>			ihnp4!iwpba!amigo

This is right except for one problem.  The TO HIT should be
DAMAGE IF THROWN, and the DAMAGE column is DAMAGE WHEN SWUNG.
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