siritzky@csd1.UUCP (05/09/84)
Finally a winner, I wish to share an idea for comments. First though I should say that I did have great plate [12](protected), a +3, +2 two handed sword, strength 22 and 80 hp, 2 scare monster scrolls, 2 hold monster scrolls, two wands of polymorph, one of slow monster and lots of other good stuff, including enough food. Anyway, here's the idea ***POSSIBLE SPOILER**** When I discovered my second scare monster scroll I was on level 3 of the dungeon. I stood on it without picking it up and tried out my wands. The first wand changed a bet into a Jabberwock. Of course I killed it and went up a whole lot of levels. I continued this, using up the staff and killing another Jabberwock, two Griffins and a Vampire. Questions: Is this a waste of the polymorph wand? Is there anyone else who has done this?
ab3@stat-l (Rsk the Wombat) (05/10/84)
Yes, I've used it too...but it's tricky. The idea is to polymorph, say, a bat, which is only worth a few experience points, into something like a black unicorn or a jabberwock, and then to kill it. Now, when you try to do this at experience level 1, with 12 hp, you had better have some firepower on your side. I'd say a scare monster scroll is necessary, unless the critter is about 6-8 squares away and you have a wand of fire/lightning/whatever. Even then, if you miss a few times, you stand the risk of letting the monster get next to you; one smack from the critter, and you're history. The toughest part of this is that you have to identify the wand of polymorph and the scare monster scroll...the few times I've done it, I've dragged a monster around the scroll to discover that it was indeed "scare monster", and then "moved" onto it (i.e. the "m" command in 5.3), and then experimented with the whatever wands/staves I had available. Of course, at least half the time you wind up polymorphing something like a kestrel into something like an emu, which does you no good at all... -- Rsk the Wombat UUCP: { allegra, decvax, ihnp4, harpo, teklabs, ucbvax } !pur-ee!rsk { cornell, eagle, hplabs, ittvax, lanl-a, ncrday } !purdue!rsk
dan@ut-ngp.UUCP (05/15/84)
ANY tactic that gets you a total winner cannot be bad! Dan Reynolds <dan@ut-ngp.ARPA>
crigney@uok.UUCP (05/25/84)
#R:csd1:-16800:uok:13500005:000:734 uok!crigney May 24 18:28:00 1984 Our version has more than one monster assigned to each letter (e.g. B is a bat on level 1, bugbear on level 8, Balrog on level 20, etc.), so unfortunately we can't use this neat trick. Scrolls of genocide kill the monster for the letter given starting at the wimpiest. Killing U with the first scroll just gets rid of Unicorns (which are harmless - in fact they heal you), and you need a second scroll to get rid of Umber Hulks, then a third to get rid of Black Unicorns. And how often do you find multiple scrolls of Genocide? Considering how easy it was to have an unlimited number of different monsters, I'm amazed that the various Super-Rogues etal. haven't done this. Carl ..!ctvax!uokvax!uok!crigney ..!duke!uok!crigney