rathke@IS.INFORMATIK.UNI-STUTTGART.DE (Christian Rathke) (08/15/90)
Hello, I'd like to know if someone using (micro)explorers has successfully installed CLIO. I am encountering some problems that show up when I try to run the examples. I am told that "((EQL CLIO-OPEN::DEFAULT-HORIZONTAL-SPACE)) is an ill-formed function object" This is part of the method definition of cluei:convert and is used to access a method hashtable in ticlos::put-method-in-hash-table. Any ideas, suggestions? Thanks in advance. -Christian Rathke ============================================================================== Christian Rathke rathke@informatik.uni-stuttgart.de Institut fuer Informatik Universitaet Stuttgart Forststrasse 86 D - 7000 Stuttgart 1 Tel.: (+49 711) 121-1436 ==============================================================================
Rice@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (James Rice) (08/16/90)
>> Hello, >> I'd like to know if someone using (micro)explorers has >> successfully installed CLIO. I am encountering some >> problems that show up when I try to run the examples. >> I am told that >> "((EQL CLIO-OPEN::DEFAULT-HORIZONTAL-SPACE)) is an >> ill-formed function object" >> This is part of the method definition of cluei:convert >> and is used to access a method hashtable in >> ticlos::put-method-in-hash-table. >> Any ideas, suggestions? >> Thanks in advance. >> -Christian Rathke >> ============================================================================== >> Christian Rathke rathke@informatik.uni-stuttgart.de >> Institut fuer Informatik Universitaet Stuttgart >> Forststrasse 86 D - 7000 Stuttgart 1 Tel.: (+49 711) >> 121-1436 >> ============================================================================== I was under the impression that TI implementation of X doesn't work on mXs, so there isn't any point in even trying to load CLIO. What's more, given the fact that TI is getting out of the LispM business I wouldn't expect ever o be able to do X on an xM. Hoping I'm wrong, Rice.
cerys@BBN.COM (Dan Cerys) (08/16/90)
Sender: RICE@ksl-mac-63.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 15 Aug 90 11:17:10 PDT From: James Rice <Rice@sumex-aim.stanford.edu> I was under the impression that TI implementation of X doesn't work on mXs, so there isn't any point in even trying to load CLIO. What's more, given the fact that TI is getting out of the LispM business I wouldn't expect ever o be able to do X on an xM. Hoping I'm wrong, This is kind of a moot point since Apple has come out with their own MacX X server product. The MicroExplorer (using standard CLX) can display it's X windows on any X server on the network, including the one running on its Macintosh. This is probably a much higher performance option when compared to a Lisp-based server that needs to go through the Mac processor. Dan
rathke@IS.INFORMATIK.UNI-STUTTGART.DE (Christian Rathke) (08/16/90)
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 90 20:14:26 EDT
From: Dan Cerys <cerys@BBN.COM>
Subject: clio - successful installation anybody?
Sender: RICE@ksl-mac-63.stanford.edu
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 90 11:17:10 PDT
From: James Rice <Rice@sumex-aim.stanford.edu>
I was under the impression that TI implementation of X
doesn't work on mXs, so there isn't any point in even
trying to load CLIO. What's more, given the fact that
TI is getting out of the LispM business I wouldn't
expect ever o be able to do X on an xM.
Hoping I'm wrong,
This is kind of a moot point since Apple has come out with their own MacX X
server product. The MicroExplorer (using standard CLX) can display it's X
windows on any X server on the network, including the one running on its
Macintosh. This is probably a much higher performance option when compared
to a Lisp-based server that needs to go through the Mac processor.
Dan
I have to agree with this. CLUE is doing fine on my MicroExplorer and there is
no reason why CLIO shouldn't. We use SUN-based X servers for display but would
like to use MacX if TI manages to allow other Mac-based IP/TCP software to
co-exist with their own.
-Christiandebellis@andersen.com (Michael DeBellis) (08/17/90)
>> Hello, >> I'd like to know if someone using (micro)explorers has >> successfully installed CLIO. I am encountering some >> problems that show up when I try to run the examples. >> I am told that >> "((EQL CLIO-OPEN::DEFAULT-HORIZONTAL-SPACE)) is an >> ill-formed function object" >> This is part of the method definition of cluei:convert >> and is used to access a method hashtable in >> ticlos::put-method-in-hash-table. >> Any ideas, suggestions? >> Thanks in advance. >> -Christian Rathke >>>I was under the impression that TI implementation of X >>>doesn't work on mXs, so there isn't any point in even >>>trying to load CLIO. What's more, given the fact that >>>TI is getting out of the LispM business I wouldn't >>>expect ever o be able to do X on an xM. The line from TI is that they are waiting for Apple to release an official version of X. I've heard that there are 3rd party versions of X that run on the Mac, but TI is waiting for a version that comes from Apple which I believe is expected to be included in the next major release of the Mac operating system. When this comes out (in theory) TI should quickly make CLX (and as a result CLIO) available for the MicroExplorer. Until then, James is right, you don't have a chance of bringing up CLIO on the MicroEx. Mike