[net.games.rogue] rogue is a #$%^&*

tims@mako.UUCP (06/13/84)

A while ago I posted an article casting my aspersions on rogue. (5.3)
I apologize and realize the error in that behavior.  I have come to
realize that rogue is, after all, winnable, given an unobtainable
amount of luck.  Uh oh, did I say 'unobtainable'?  Yes, I did!  But, then
there are those of you who have won, or at least claim to have, won.  Oops,
did I say 'claim'?  Of course I did!  Who could possibly have won this
frigging mess?  I submit to you that such claims are LIES, ALL LIES!  OR
THEY CHEATED, WHICH IS WORSE THAN LYING.  YAAAGHHH, GRRRRRR!  HERE'S TO
THUNDERING HERDS OF BLACK UNICORNS UP KEN ARNOLDS'S NOSE, AND HOBGOBLINS
IN YOUR UNDERWEAR, ALL YOU ALLEGED WINNERS, HAH!

Now, for a positive contribution:

    The rogueists ABC's.

	If you've never seen a 'D' before,
	you'll wonder what the 'D' stands for.

	You'll know when it flames you to your death,
	that 'D' must surely stand for dog-breath.


		+--------------+
		|DTWUVPFDPFXYUM|
		|XTDTDWU FDVUTQ|
		|TDUVPF @ XYTYD|  You call this a party?  I'm leavin'.
		|DXYTYFD DXYTYF|
		|MUXFPDFPVUTDFD|
		+--------------+

chuqui@nsc.UUCP (Chuq Von Rospach) (06/15/84)

>But, then there are those of you who have won, or at least claim to
>have, won.  Oops, did I say 'claim'?  Of course I did!  Who could
>possibly have won this frigging mess?  I submit to you that such claims
>are LIES, ALL LIES!

One thing I do is play all of my rogue games piped through tee (as in
'rogue | tee <file>'. This allows me to look back at interesting games and
do things like develop statistics on monster hit points and other wonders.
It also gives me permanent playback records on all of my won games. If you
have a vt100 compatible terminal you can sit back and watch my every
keystroke on BOTH of my 5.3 wins. I would post them but a won game runs
about 300-400K. If you REALLY don't believe it can be won drop by and I'll
show them to you.

chuq (double winner on 5.3, 17,000 GP and 13,000GP)

-- 
From the ledge of the seventh cornice:			Chuq Von Rospach
{amd70,fortune,hplabs,ihnp4}!nsc!chuqui			(408) 733-2600 x242

Love is the process of my leading you gently back to yourself.
			- Saint Exupery

gwyn@brl-vgr.ARPA (Doug Gwyn ) (06/17/84)

How about posting the most instructive total win to net.sources?

ab3@stat-l (Rsk the Wombat) (06/19/84)

	The only problem with posting a rogue-game is that it'll have 
the cursor constructs for whatever terminal it was run on built into it...
and thus will be gibberish to everyone who doesn't have *that* kind of
terminal.
-- 
Rsk the Wombat
UUCP: { allegra, decvax, ihnp4, harpo, teklabs, ucbvax } !pur-ee!rsk
      { allegra, cornell, decvax, hplabs, ihnp4, ucbvax} !purdue!rsk

"Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature."

lmaher@uokvax.UUCP (07/02/84)

#R:mako:-16700:uokvax:13700002:000:401
uokvax!lmaher    Jun 18 23:07:00 1984

Of course, Chuq, a real fanatic might very well tee a rogue game and
then go back and EDIT IT into a total win. :-)

But then, I believe everyone who says they've won.  Even I have won,
any number of times.

	Mr. Wizard
	..!ctvax!uokvax!lmaher

P.S. This note is meant only in a spirit of joyful paranoia, and no
offense should be taken at its contents.  In other words, insert :-)
where desired! :-)