[net.games.rogue] What's happening here?

tims@mako.UUCP (Tim Stoehr) (07/09/84)

The other day I was playing rogue, and as I dropped down from level 1, I was
plopped right into the middle of a party room.  I tried to boogy out of there
but to no avail.  Then, out of desperation, I read an unidentified scroll in
the hopes that it would be a teleport, and, miracle of miracles, it was.  So,
I wandered around and finally cleared the monsters out of the party room except
for a single bat, and an orc, who kept moving diagonally back and forth between
two spots.  It looked like this:

      ###########
	 ----@---
	 +......|
	 |...*..|
	 |BO.?*.|
	 --------
	
The bat didn't move, but
every time I moved, the orc would just move to the position up and left of the
one shown above, and then back again when I moved again.  It would make this
move about 80% of the times I moved.  It didn't move until I made a run for the
gold in the middle of the room.  Anyone know what's happening here?

dave@utcsrgv.UUCP (Dave Sherman) (07/09/84)

In article <204@mako.UUCP> tims@mako.UUCP (Tim Stoehr) writes:
~| The other day I was playing rogue, and as I dropped down from level 1, I was
~| plopped right into the middle of a party room.  I tried to boogy out of there
~| but to no avail.  Then, out of desperation, I read an unidentified scroll in
~| the hopes that it would be a teleport, and, miracle of miracles, it was.  So,
~| I wandered around and finally cleared the monsters out of the party room except
~| for a single bat, and an orc, who kept moving diagonally back and forth between
~| two spots.  It looked like this:
~| 
~|       ###########
~| 	 ----@---
~| 	 +......|
~| 	 |...*..|
~| 	 |BO.?*.|
~| 	 --------
~| 	
~| The bat didn't move, but
~| every time I moved, the orc would just move to the position up and left of the
~| one shown above, and then back again when I moved again.  It would make this
~| move about 80% of the times I moved.  It didn't move until I made a run for the
~| gold in the middle of the room.  Anyone know what's happening here?

Orcs, as we know, head for gold. In this case, the Orc is heading for
the gold in the corner which the Bat happens to be sitting on. Since it
can't get there, it keeps flutterng around desparately in an attempt
to reach it. (It's the same behaviour you see when you are standing on
a scare monster and some poor beastie is trying to attack you.)

Dave Sherman
Magnifibeast
-- 
 {allegra,cornell,decvax,ihnp4,linus,utzoo}!utcsrgv!dave
or
 David_Sherman%Wayne-MTS%UMich-MTS.Mailnet@MIT-Multics.ARPA

markb@sdcrdcf.UUCP (07/10/84)

In article <204@mako.UUCP> tims@mako.UUCP (Tim Stoehr) writes:
>The other day I was playing rogue, and as I dropped down from level 1, I was
>plopped right into the middle of a party room.  I tried to boogy out of there
>but to no avail.  Then, out of desperation, I read an unidentified scroll in
>the hopes that it would be a teleport, and, miracle of miracles, it was.  So,
>I wandered around and finally cleared the monsters out of the party room except
>for a single bat, and an orc, who kept moving diagonally back and forth between
>two spots.  It looked like this:
>
>      ###########
>	 ----@---
>	 +......|
>	 |...*..|
>	 |BO.?*.|
>	 --------
>	
>The bat didn't move, but
>every time I moved, the orc would just move to the position up and left of the
>one shown above, and then back again when I moved again.  It would make this
>move about 80% of the times I moved.  It didn't move until I made a run for the
>gold in the middle of the room.  Anyone know what's happening here?

The most likely explaination is that there is a pot of gold under the bat
and the poor orc can't make up his mind which pot he should run to.
Tho why he would try to run to the pot under the bat when the other one is
closer is beyond me, so this is possibly a bug.

Mark Biggar
{allegra,burdvax,cbosgd,hplabs,ihnp4,sdcsvax}!sdcrdcf!markb

wws@whuxle.UUCP (Stoll H William) (07/10/84)

I've seen orcs behave that way (move back and forth as if they
were trying to get to the square that another monster was on).
I think you'll find that the bat is sitting on a pile of gold.

Bill Stoll

rh@mit-eddie.UUCP (Randy Haskins) (07/12/84)

This is what it looked like:

      ###########
	 ----@---
	 +......|	With the Orc bopping between positions
	 |1..*..|	1 and 2....
	 |B2.?*.|
	 --------

Looks to me like the software couldn't decide which gold he wanted
to go for or something silly like that.  Pretty funny.
-- 
Randwulf  (Randy Haskins);  Path= genrad!mit-eddie!rh
[Have I REALLY been reading this stuff for a year???]

alex@sdcsvax.UUCP (07/14/84)

I had a related experience; I walked into a room and saw an Orc crossing
it, as if he were going for some gold.  Yet there wasn't any gold in the
room; he stopped in an empty corner and waited for me.

(and I wasn't even carrying any really heavy weapons! :-<)

Alex

chip@t4test.UUCP (Chip Rosenthal) (07/18/84)

--- REFERENCED ARTICLE ---------------------------------------------

>From: tims@mako.UUCP (Tim Stoehr)
>
>I wandered around and finally cleared the monsters out of the party room except
>for a single bat, and an orc, who kept moving diagonally back and forth between
>two spots.  It looked like this:
>
>      ###########
>	 ----@---
>	 +......|
>	 |...*..|
>	 |BO.?*.|
>	 --------
>	

--------------------------------------------------------------------

There have been two answers proposed:

1)  The orc didn't know which of the two visible pots of gold to go for.
2)  There was gold under the bat.

The latter is true.  When a monster is set running, it is told to run
and where to run to.  In most cases, it is "run at the rogue".  However,
in the case of the greedy little orcs they might be told to run to a
specific pot of gold.  Note that this instruction is "run to a specific
location", and not "get greedy and run to any pot of gold."  In this
case, the orc was told to run to some gold sitting underneath the bat.

-- 
Chip Rosenthal, Intel/Santa Clara
{idi|intelca|icalqa|imcgpe|kremvax|qubix|ucscc}!t4test!{chip|news}