terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.) (06/12/91)
In article <15166@ucrmath.ucr.edu>, kevin@watnxt3.ucr.edu (Kevin Lund) writes: > I would have posted this in comp.os.rsts, but that group seems to have > vanished (at least at this site), and this seems the next best place for > an answer to my burning question, so...with no further adieu... Maybe the newsgroup died of boredom - the last posting was April 25th. > What's the minimal pdp/11 setup that will run RSTS? And do a decent job > of it, that is...I ask because I'm vaguely considering trying to pick > one up and need to know what to look for (looking for one because the > grand computer of my youth ran rsts...however, that was an 11/70 which > I think would be a bit excessive...). Thanks... Any CPU with 124Kw of parity memory, KW11-L clock, DL-11 console, EIS, and an RM02/03/05/80, RP04/05/06, RD31/32/51/52/53/54, RK06/07, RL01/02, or RA60/70/80/81/82/90 disk. That means the PDP-11/23/24/34/35/40/45/50/53/55/60/70/73/83/84/93/94, by the way. I believe that only excludes the PDP-11/04/05/10/15/25, which leaves you a _large_ number of choices 8-). Terry Kennedy Operations Manager, Academic Computing terry@spcvxa.bitnet St. Peter's College, US terry@spcvxa.spc.edu (201) 915-9381
jhawk@panix.uucp (John Hawkinson) (06/13/91)
In <1991Jun12.010416.1464@spcvxb.spc.edu> terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.) writes: > Any CPU with 124Kw of parity memory, KW11-L clock, DL-11 console, EIS, >and an RM02/03/05/80, RP04/05/06, RD31/32/51/52/53/54, RK06/07, RL01/02, >or RA60/70/80/81/82/90 disk. > That means the PDP-11/23/24/34/35/40/45/50/53/55/60/70/73/83/84/93/94, ^^^^^^^ |--------------------------------------| You forgot the 11/44. Sheesh! Some people :-) >by the way. I believe that only excludes the PDP-11/04/05/10/15/25, which >leaves you a _large_ number of choices 8-). > Terry Kennedy Operations Manager, Academic Computing > terry@spcvxa.bitnet St. Peter's College, US > terry@spcvxa.spc.edu (201) 915-9381 -- -- John Hawkinson jhawk@panix.com
wilko@idca.tds.PHILIPS.nl (W.C. Bulte) (06/13/91)
In article <1991Jun12.010416.1464@spcvxb.spc.edu> terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.) writes: >In article <15166@ucrmath.ucr.edu>, kevin@watnxt3.ucr.edu (Kevin Lund) writes: >by the way. I believe that only excludes the PDP-11/04/05/10/15/25, which >leaves you a _large_ number of choices 8-). Wrrong, you forgot the 11/03 (or LSI11 & LS11/2). > Terry Kennedy Operations Manager, Academic Computing _ __________________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Wilko Bulte Domain: wilko@idca.tds.philips.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) System Engineering uucp : [mcsun,hp4nl]!philapd!wilko * Philips Information Systems Nederland phone: +31 55-432372 fax: +31 55-432103 "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'" Yoda - The Empire Strikes Back ________________________________________________________________________________
emcguire@ccad.uiowa.edu (Ed McGuire) (06/14/91)
In article <15166@ucrmath.ucr.edu>, kevin@watnxt3.ucr.edu (Kevin Lund) writes: > What's the minimal pdp/11 setup that will run RSTS? In article <1991Jun12.010416.1464@spcvxb.spc.edu> terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.) writes: > Any CPU with 124Kw of parity memory, KW11-L clock, DL-11 console, > EIS, and an RM02/03/05/80, RP04/05/06, RD31/32/51/52/53/54, RK06/07, > RL01/02, or RA60/70/80/81/82/90 disk. > > That means the PDP-11/23/24/34/35/40/45/50/53/55/60/70/73/83/84/93/94, > by the way. I believe that only excludes the PDP-11/04/05/10/15/25, > which leaves you a _large_ number of choices 8-). Quibble: RSTS runs on the 04/05/etc. RSTS/E runs on the 23/24/etc. ;) -- peace. -- Ed "Over here, Bones! This man's dying!" "Damn it, Jim! I'm a doctor, not a . . . What did you say?"
kumamoto@sj.ate.slb.com (Danny Kumamoto) (06/14/91)
In article <1991Jun12.010416.1464@spcvxb.spc.edu> terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.) writes: > That means the PDP-11/23/24/34/35/40/45/50/53/55/60/70/73/83/84/93/94, >by the way. Don't forget the PDP-11/44 (maybe even 11/23+ -- my memory is flaky about such ancient history :-). Danny Internet: kumamoto@verisys.slb.com or: kumamoto@sj.ate.slb.com BITNET: kumamoto%verisys.slb.com@CERNVAX.BITNET SLOWnet: Verisys Inc., An NTT-Schlumberger Company 2-2-1 Fuchinobe, Sagamihara-shi, Kanagawa-ken 229, Japan "Where are the men?" the little prince [asked.] "It is a little lonely in the desert..." "It is also lonely among men," the snake said.
terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.) (06/14/91)
In article <1991Jun13.222910.3069@sj.ate.slb.com>, kumamoto@sj.ate.slb.com (Danny Kumamoto) writes: > Don't forget the PDP-11/44 Yup, several folks have pointed this out. The funny part is that in some areas of DECUS, I'm known as "Mr. 11/44" - if you were at the 20th anni- versary PDP-11 College Bowl, you know why 8-). Besides, I have 3 11/44's running here... Others have mentioned the 11/34A and the 11/23+, which I lumped under 34 and 23, and the SBC-11/21, which was sold as "SBC", not "PDP", so I don't think it counts, and the LSI-11/03, same thing. Terry Kennedy Operations Manager, Academic Computing terry@spcvxa.bitnet St. Peter's College, US terry@spcvxa.spc.edu (201) 915-9381
digex@world.std.com (doug e humphrey) (06/14/91)
Hey, to whomever wants to run RSTS, I have an 11/34a here, with two RL02 drives, just the thing for running a little RSTS at home (version 8 or 9 or 7, maybe not 10...). It worked a while back, now it is sitting on a pallet, looking lonely, knowing that if someone doesn't take it home soon, it will go to meet its maker (yeah, we can drop it on Mr. Olsens front lawn, if the guards don't shoot us...) Seriously, you want this thing? As is, Where is, Newton MA. Maybe a token $10 charge or something to keep the gods of commerce happy. Doug Humphrey digex@world.std.com
smithr@ast.dsd.northrop.com (Dick Smith) (06/15/91)
In article <1991Jun14.121908.7866@world.std.com> digex@world.std.com (doug e humphrey) writes: > >Hey, to whomever wants to run RSTS, I have an 11/34a here, >with two RL02 drives, just the thing for running a little >RSTS at home (version 8 or 9 or 7, maybe not 10...). It >worked a while back, now it is sitting on a pallet, looking >lonely, knowing that if someone doesn't take it home soon, >it will go to meet its maker (yeah, we can drop it on Mr. >Olsens front lawn, if the guards don't shoot us...) Gosh. I'd take a free (or even $50) one if it was here in the midwest. Too bad you're too far to just go pick it up this weekend.... I remember that machine, and the software that ran on it, very fondly. -- Dick Smith smith@ast.dsd.northrop.com Formerly DEC #66737
us048503@mmm.serc.3m.com (Art H. Hurst) (06/15/91)
You are all making fun of the venerable PDP-11 series. We here at 3M
Camarillo California are running many PDP-11 series (44,70,23,73) and
getting the job done as always. Even our 3M comrades say "PDP what???".
A DC3 may look ugly but it still flies and gets people from here to
there. Besides RSX11M+ has withstood the test of time superbly. The
hardware and software are sturdy, simple, and reliable. What more can
you ask?? Look also at OS/2. Who did Microsoft pick to finish the job
but Dave Cutler the father of RSX11M+. Also, RSX11M+ has multi-processor
commands in its reportoire! There have been at least two multi-processor
PDP-11's and if it weren't for the necessity of selling VMS I'll bet you
would have seen a proliferation of multi-processor PDP-11's. The PDP-8
and the PDP-11 will go down in history as two milestones in computer
progress. Already the PDP-8 is one of the historic turning points in
the IEEE 25 year edition of major milestones in progress!
geremin@decus.com.au (06/15/91)
In article <1991Jun14.053912.1473@spcvxb.spc.edu>, terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.) writes: > In article <1991Jun13.222910.3069@sj.ate.slb.com>, kumamoto@sj.ate.slb.com (Danny Kumamoto) writes: >> Don't forget the PDP-11/44 > > Yup, several folks have pointed this out. The funny part is that in some > areas of DECUS, I'm known as "Mr. 11/44" - if you were at the 20th anni- > versary PDP-11 College Bowl, you know why 8-). Besides, I have 3 11/44's > running here... ...[stuff deleted] Sorry, Terry - I did not know you were known as Mr 11/44, and unfortunately I missed the 20 Anniversary PDP-11 College Bowl, HOWEVER you and your colleagues are invited to come to a Weekend workshop and Seminar AND 21st Birthday Celebration in Sydney, AUSTRALIA on 12 and 13 October, 1991 and tell us too. see COMP.OS.RSTS and COMP.SYS.DEC and COMP.SYS.DEC.MICRO, etc for more details of the event and call for participation. Regards, and thanks for your help to all PDP-11 users, John G. -- v*v*v*v*v*v*v*v*v*v*v*v*v*v*v*v*v*v*v*v*v*v*v*v*v*v*v*v*v*v*v*v John Geremin, PDP-11 SIG, geremin@decus.com.au DECUS South Pacific Chapter. phone 61 2 764 4855. c/- MEGATRONICS, p.o.box S-5, Homebush South, 2140. Australia. *^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*
bqt@cia.docs.uu.se (Johnny Billquist) (06/19/91)
In <1991Jun13.005510.28524@panix.uucp> jhawk@panix.uucp (John Hawkinson) writes: >In <1991Jun12.010416.1464@spcvxb.spc.edu> terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.) writes: >> Any CPU with 124Kw of parity memory, KW11-L clock, DL-11 console, EIS, >>and an RM02/03/05/80, RP04/05/06, RD31/32/51/52/53/54, RK06/07, RL01/02, >>or RA60/70/80/81/82/90 disk. >> That means the PDP-11/23/24/34/35/40/45/50/53/55/60/70/73/83/84/93/94, > ^^^^^^^ > |--------------------------------------| >You forgot the 11/44. Sheesh! Some people :-) >>by the way. I believe that only excludes the PDP-11/04/05/10/15/25, which >>leaves you a _large_ number of choices 8-). You both missed the obvious: 11/20 (the original)... Sheesh! Some people :-) But I don't know if you can run RSTS/E on the 11/20... Anybody? Johnny
terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.) (06/20/91)
In article <bqt.677324175@cia.docs.uu.se>, bqt@cia.docs.uu.se (Johnny Billquist) writes: > You both missed the obvious: 11/20 (the original)... > Sheesh! Some people :-) There was a typo in my original posting - "25" should have read "20". Terry Kennedy Operations Manager, Academic Computing terry@spcvxa.bitnet St. Peter's College, US terry@spcvxa.spc.edu (201) 915-9381
ted@netcom.COM (Ted Sarbin) (06/22/91)
In article <bqt.677324175@cia.docs.uu.se> bqt@cia.docs.uu.se (Johnny Billquist) writes: > > >You both missed the obvious: 11/20 (the original)... >Sheesh! Some people :-) > >But I don't know if you can run RSTS/E on the 11/20... >Anybody? > You can't run RSTS/E on a PDP-11/20 but you can run RSTS-11; in fact the original release of RSTS was on the PDP-11/20. As I recall, we claimed that a 28KW PDP-11/20 with two RK05s, DECtapes and a DH11 was suitable for 17 users.