[comp.protocols.iso.x400] ADMD - Country combinations

RE_Sonneveld@pttrnl.nl ("R. Sonneveld, ICP, NAD, ICP@HLSDNL5.BITnet, +31 70 435362") (09/14/90)

Hello, all

Can anyone post or point me to a list with all known ADMD-Country
combinations? Thanks a lot in advance,

--
                       Rolf Sonneveld
                       ICP@pttrnl.nl

GRZ027%DBNGMD21.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu (Peter Sylvester +49 228 8199645) (09/14/90)

Questions: Which combinations do you want:

- the ones that are in use by the "research community" with or without
  proper authorization of the real admds, or

- those from admds that actually perform x.400 service?

I would also like to have a list like that and especially in cases
where the admd name is used in research communities as well as
by a real admd I would like to know which prmd is registered
by the real admd and/or by the research network, and how
interoperabilty is there etc.

Peter Sylvester GMD Bonn

jh@tut.fi (Juha Heinanen) (09/15/90)

In article <"90-09-14-13:59:46.12*GRZ027"@DBNGMD21.BITNET> GRZ027%DBNGMD21.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu (Peter Sylvester +49 228 8199645) writes:

   Questions: Which combinations do you want:

   - the ones that are in use by the "research community" with or without
     proper authorization of the real admds, or

   - those from admds that actually perform x.400 service?

I don't like this classification.  First of all, noone at least in my
country needs any authorization from anybody to set up a non-profit or
commercial ADMD.  Thus any ADMD is as real as any other provided that
it seriously serves some customer base.  How ADMDs make traffic
agreements with each other is determined purely by business reasons,
ie. does one ADMD think it benefitial for its own business.  There is
no politics involved.

In c=FI we have at least three ADMD that seriously try to server their
customers.  Two of these are for-profit and are called ELISA and
MAILNET.  The third is non-profit managed by FUNET (Finnish University
and Research Network) and is called FUMAIL.  All three ADMD exchange
messages with each other on peer-to-peer basis based on official
written agreements.

Is Germany still under a totalitarial rule that allows only the state
monopoly to run a real ADMD?
--
--	Juha Heinanen, Tampere Univ. of Technology, Finland
	jh@tut.fi (Internet), tut!jh (UUCP), jh@tut (Bitnet)

philip@beeblebrox.dle.dg.com (Philip Gladstone) (09/16/90)

In article <JH.90Sep14212204@etana.tut.fi> jh@tut.fi (Juha Heinanen) writes:
>
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>
>I don't like this classification.  First of all, noone at least in my
>country needs any authorization from anybody to set up a non-profit or
>commercial ADMD.  Thus any ADMD is as real as any other provided that
>it seriously serves some customer base.  How ADMDs make traffic
>agreements with each other is determined purely by business reasons,
>ie. does one ADMD think it benefitial for its own business.  There is
>no politics involved.

I think that now is the time to recall the following definitions:

An X.400 Novice is someone who does not know what an ADMD is.

An X.400 Expert is someone who thinks he knows what an ADMD is.

An X.400 Guru is someone who knows he does not know what an ADMD is.

[Apologies to original author]

:-)

Philip Gladstone                        philip@dle.dg.com
Development Lab Europe                  C=gb/AD=gold 400/PR=dgc/O=dle
Data General, Cambridge                   /SN=gladstone/GN=philip
England.  +44 223-67600

yonadav%TAURUS.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu (09/25/90)

Juha Heinanen of Tampere Univ. describes three unregistered ADMD's
that operate in Finland.

Are these really ADMD's, or should they be classified PRMD's ???

Yonadav Perry
Israel

Marko.Kaittola@tut.fi (Marko Kaittola) (09/25/90)

yonadav%TAURUS.bitnet@nac.no writes:
 > Juha Heinanen of Tampere Univ. describes three unregistered ADMD's
 > that operate in Finland.
 >
 > Are these really ADMD's, or should they be classified PRMD's ???

They are definitly ADMDs.

	- Marko Kaittola

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Juha Heinanen of Tampere Univ. describes three unregistered ADMD's
that operate in Finland.

Are these really ADMD's, or should they be classified PRMD's ???

Yonadav Perry
Israel

MARKO.KAITTOLA%TUT.FI@cunyvm.cuny.edu (10/01/90)

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yonadav%TAURUS.bitnet@nac.no writes:
 > Juha Heinanen of Tampere Univ. describes three unregistered ADMD's
 > that operate in Finland.
 >
 > Are these really ADMD's, or should they be classified PRMD's ???

They are definitly ADMDs.

	- Marko Kaittola