rothstein@nutmeg.enet.dec.COM ("Lee Rothstein, 603-884-0039") (10/06/90)
In article <1990Oct1.091921.3178@idt.unit.no>, harald.alvestrand@elab-runit.sintef.no writes... >In message <15515@shlump.nac.dec.com>, rothstein@nutmeg.enet.dec.COM >("Lee Rothstein, 603-884-0039") writes: >> ALL-IN-1 MAIL is a 1988 P2 conformant UA developed and marketed >> by Digital. >Now that PP is out, with a "1988 version beta test channel", it should be >possible to start some interworking tests. >Who else has got X.400/88 implemented? First, and most important, I erred when I said that ALL-IN-1 MAIL was 1988 P2 conformant. It is 1984 P2 conformant. I apologize for any misimpressions I may have created. It was an inadvertant error. Second, what is "PP"? Thanks, Lee +---------------------------------------------------------+ | Lee Rothstein * UUCP: {purdue,ucbvax,hplabs,labrea,sun, | | pyramid,gryphon,angelo}!decwrl!nutmeg.dec.com!rothstein| | * Arpa/Domain Address: rothstein@nutmeg.enet.dec.com | +---------------------------------------------------------+
stef@ICS.UCI.EDU (Einar Stefferud) (10/09/90)
I think it is imporant to ask how it is that All-In-One, which is conformant to the old NBS FIPS which underlays the DEC MailRouter stuff cvan be said to conform to anny aspect of X.400! The addresses in A-1 are routing addressses with multipole @signs, etc, et a., ad nauseum. A-1 is really just a user agent, if my understanding in correct, and DEC has put an X.400 Gateway (MRX) on the edges of the MailRouter "domain", which buffers A-q from any direct contact with X.400. So what is this all about. How is A-1 conformant with any version of X.400? Best...\Stef
SXKAC%ALASKA.BITNET@cornellc.cit.cornell.edu (Kurt Carlson) (10/09/90)
> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 90 15:26:18 -0700 > From: Einar Stefferud <stef@ics.uci.edu> > So what is this all about. How is A-1 conformant with any version of > X.400? Dec's message router with the MRX gateway is conformant to x.400 1984. A1Mail *is* indeed a User Agent (actually, a Message Store + UA). I can't comment on how compatable old All-In-1 Mail is with x.400, we've hung our own UA off of the Message Router... their programmer's kit is quite functional. The 'free' VMSMail has a crude gateway to MR and hence MRX/x.400... crude may be a kind description. The newer A1Mail services appear to be well integrated with Message Router which does seem to be evolving from the old NBS standards to x.400. The word I heard from Dec (a year ago, have not attended any conferences or seminars since) was that the Message Router will be natively x.400 in a future release. They expect the MRX product to remain as a tool for filtering / securing an x.400 network from others. I did not see any definitive description on this or any time table. They also have statement of direction for their directory service component of message router / mailbus (DDS) to become x.500 compliant. We continue to use our own (non-x.500) directory services until theirs is closer to x.500 and until they provide a programmer's kit for dds. regards, kurt carlson university of alaska computer network <sxkac@alaska.bitnet>
rothstein@nutmeg.enet.dec.COM ("Lee Rothstein, 603-884-0039") (10/10/90)
In article <23448.655424778@ics.uci.edu>, stef@ICS.UCI.EDU (Einar Stefferud) writes... >I think it is imporant to ask how it is that All-In-One, which is >conformant to the old NBS FIPS which underlays the DEC MailRouter stuff >cvan be said to conform to anny aspect of X.400! The addresses in A-1 >are routing addressses with multipole @signs, etc, et a., ad nauseum. >A-1 is really just a user agent, if my understanding in correct, and DEC >has put an X.400 Gateway (MRX) on the edges of the MailRouter "domain", >which buffers A-q from any direct contact with X.400. >So what is this all about. How is A-1 conformant with any version of >X.400? >Best...\Stef Stef, ALL-IN-1 (tm) is a brand name, now. What you are calling "All-In-One", we now call ALL-IN-1 Integrated Office System (IOS). ALL-IN-1 MAIL is a whole new implementation of mail, and is not the same as the current mail (the one you are referring to) inside ALL-IN-1 IOS. ALL-IN-1 MAIL can exchange P2 conformant messages with other X.400 MHSes through MRX. Thanks for your interest, Lee +---------------------------------------------------------+ | Lee Rothstein * UUCP: {purdue,ucbvax,hplabs,labrea,sun, | | pyramid,gryphon,angelo}!decwrl!nutmeg.dec.com!rothstein| | * Arpa/Domain Address: rothstein@nutmeg.enet.dec.com | +---------------------------------------------------------+