[comp.protocols.iso.x400] Returned mail: Unable to deliver mail

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Subject: UUCP handling slash in ORAddress
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There was some discussion a while back about the ORAddress in
string form. Various systems now use the convention "/attribute=value".
We have encountered some problem with using the "/" in ORAddress
with UUCP (Honeyman-D????). Have anyone encountered other problems with
slash in ORAddress with UUCP?

Thanks,
Khiem Ho
Hewlett-Packard

MAILER-DAEMON@nac.no (Mail Delivery Subsystem) (10/08/90)

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Date: Sat, 6 Oct 1990 06:55:33 +0100
From: "Lee Rothstein, 603-884-0039" <rothstein@nutmeg.enet.dec.com>,
        Jerry Sweet <mailmod@ICS.UCI.edu>
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Subject: Was: X.400 version 88?  Correction on previous post!
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In article <1990Oct1.091921.3178@idt.unit.no>,
harald.alvestrand@elab-runit.sintef.no writes...

>In message <15515@shlump.nac.dec.com>, rothstein@nutmeg.enet.dec.COM
>("Lee Rothstein, 603-884-0039") writes:

>> ALL-IN-1 MAIL is a 1988 P2 conformant UA developed and marketed
>> by Digital.

>Now that PP is out, with a "1988 version beta test channel", it should be
>possible to start some interworking tests.

>Who else has got X.400/88 implemented?

First, and most important, I erred when I said that ALL-IN-1 MAIL
was 1988 P2 conformant.  It is 1984 P2 conformant.  I apologize
for any misimpressions I may have created.  It was an inadvertant
error.

Second, what is "PP"?

Thanks,

Lee
+---------------------------------------------------------+
| Lee Rothstein * UUCP: {purdue,ucbvax,hplabs,labrea,sun, |
|  pyramid,gryphon,angelo}!decwrl!nutmeg.dec.com!rothstein|
|   * Arpa/Domain Address: rothstein@nutmeg.enet.dec.com  |
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MAILER-DAEMON@nac.no (Mail Delivery Subsystem) (10/08/90)

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From: Erik Naggum <enag@ifi.uio.no>, Jerry Sweet <mailmod@ICS.UCI.edu>
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To: <mhsnews@ICS.UCI.edu>, <mhsnews@ICS.UCI.edu>
Subject: Re: UUCP handling slash in ORAddress
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In article <47920012@hpindda.cup.hp.com> khiem@hpindda.cup.hp.COM (Khiem Ho) writes:

   There was some discussion a while back about the ORAddress in
   string form. Various systems now use the convention "/attribute=value".
   We have encountered some problem with using the "/" in ORAddress
   with UUCP (Honeyman-D????). Have anyone encountered other problems with
   slash in ORAddress with UUCP?

What an anachronism!  Is this because you try to use that infernal
ORaddress syntax in some kind of UUCP<->Internet<->X.400 gateway
thing?  "X.400 croaked for want of a slash."  :-D

If you run UUCP <-> X.400 gateways, why not send the binary image to
some special program on the other side which understands the X.400
message?  No need to resort to the RFC 1138/48 (whatever) or RFC 987
mapping.  UUCP is supposed to be 8-bit clean, anyhow.

Oh, well, if someone takes this seriously and does it, let me know.

Another solution is perhaps to write out some batch smtp stuff and
mail it off to a b-smtp program which can decode that envelope.  Or
invent something new.

Whatever.  But please, please, don't consider the character set legal
on an rmail command line (UUCP "envelope") as important enough to
think seriously about.  It may not go away, but there are better ways
around that problem than to restrict the character set of ORaddresses.
Believe me, I know all about those restrictions.

--
[Erik Naggum]		Naggum Software; Gaustadalleen 21; 0371 OSLO; NORWAY
	I disclaim,	<erik@naggum.uu.no>, <enag@ifi.uio.no>
  therefore I post.	+47-295-8622, +47-256-7822, (fax) +47-260-4427

MAILER-DAEMON@nac.no (Mail Delivery Subsystem) (10/10/90)

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        Jerry Sweet <mailmod@ICS.UCI.edu.NONE.no>
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To: <mhsnews@ICS.UCI.edu.NONE.no>, <mhsnews@ICS.UCI.edu.NONE.no>
Subject: Re: RARE MHS Project
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In article <44.2706B049@puddle.fidonet.org>, LEVY.UNDEEB@f4.n494.z5.fidonet.ORG (LEVY UNDEEB) writes:
>
> Can anyone please furnish me with a contact name and address for the
> European RARE MHS Project?
>
> Thanks in anticipation
>
> David C Levy            levy.undeeb@f4.n494.z5.fidonet.org
> University of Natal     Tel: SA-31-816-2727
> Durban 4001             Fax: SA-31-811-733
> South Africa
> --
> uucp: uunet!m2xenix!puddle!5!494!4!LEVY.UNDEEB
> Internet: LEVY.UNDEEB@f4.n494.z5.fidonet.org

You can try to contact Alf Hansen (Alf.Hansen@pilot.cs.wisc.edu) or the RARE
secretariat (raresec@nikhefh.nikhef.nl) for more information.

Regards,

--

Rolf Sonneveld
PTT Research
The Netherlands

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From: Einar Stefferud <stef@ICS.UCI.edu.NONE.no>
To: "Lee Rothstein, 603-884-0039" <rothstein@nutmeg.enet.dec.com.NONE.no>
Cc: <mhsnews@ICS.UCI.edu.NONE.no>, Einar Stefferud <stef@ICS.UCI.edu.NONE.no>
Subject: Re: Was: X.400 version 88? Correction on previous post!
In-Reply-To: <15847@shlump.nac.dec.com>
Message-Id: <23448.655424778@ics.uci.edu>
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I think it is imporant to ask how it is that All-In-One, which is
conformant to the old NBS FIPS which underlays the DEC MailRouter stuff
cvan be said to conform to anny aspect of X.400!  The addresses in A-1
are routing addressses with multipole @signs, etc, et a., ad nauseum.

A-1 is really just a user agent, if my understanding in correct, and DEC
has put an X.400 Gateway (MRX) on the edges of the MailRouter "domain",
which buffers A-q from any direct contact with X.400.

So what is this all about.  How is A-1 conformant with any version of
X.400?

Best...\Stef

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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 1990 21:25:42 +0100
From: "Lee Rothstein, 603-884-0039" <rothstein@nutmeg.enet.dec.com>,
        Jerry Sweet <mailmod@ICS.UCI.edu>
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To: <mhsnews@ICS.UCI.edu>, <mhsnews@ICS.UCI.edu>
Subject: Re: Was: X.400 version 88? Correction on previous post!
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In article <23448.655424778@ics.uci.edu>, stef@ICS.UCI.EDU
(Einar Stefferud) writes...

>I think it is imporant to ask how it is that All-In-One, which is
>conformant to the old NBS FIPS which underlays the DEC MailRouter stuff
>cvan be said to conform to anny aspect of X.400!  The addresses in A-1
>are routing addressses with multipole @signs, etc, et a., ad nauseum.

>A-1 is really just a user agent, if my understanding in correct, and DEC
>has put an X.400 Gateway (MRX) on the edges of the MailRouter "domain",
>which buffers A-q from any direct contact with X.400.

>So what is this all about.  How is A-1 conformant with any version of
>X.400?

>Best...\Stef

Stef,

ALL-IN-1 (tm) is a brand name, now.  What you are calling
"All-In-One", we now call ALL-IN-1 Integrated Office System
(IOS). ALL-IN-1 MAIL is a whole new implementation of mail, and
is not the same as the current mail (the one you are referring
to) inside ALL-IN-1 IOS.

ALL-IN-1 MAIL can exchange P2 conformant messages with other
X.400 MHSes through MRX.

Thanks for your interest,

Lee
+---------------------------------------------------------+
| Lee Rothstein * UUCP: {purdue,ucbvax,hplabs,labrea,sun, |
|  pyramid,gryphon,angelo}!decwrl!nutmeg.dec.com!rothstein|
|   * Arpa/Domain Address: rothstein@nutmeg.enet.dec.com  |
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MAILER-DAEMON@nac.no (Mail Delivery Subsystem) (10/10/90)

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554 xfAAnac25770: line 13: <MHSNEWS@ibacsata.earn>... Domain earn not known--please try to route manually
554 xfAAnac25770: line 15: <vesalainen@haseoc.bitnet>... Host haseoc not known within the bitnet domain
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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 1990 21:38:56 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de>
Subject: Returned mail: unknown mailer error 1
Reply-To: <MAILER-DAEMON@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de>
Message-Id: <9010090330.AA05080@gshegering1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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554 <kaiser@gshegering1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>... unknown mailer error 1

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Reply-To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Received: by uninett with X.400; 09 Oct 90 01:48:29+0100
Date: 09 Oct 90 01:48:29+0100
From: Alf Hansen <Alf.Hansen@cs.uw-madison.xnren.NONE.us>
Message-Id: <901008142824*Alf.Hansen@cs.uw-madison.xnren.NONE.us>
To: Steve Kille <S.Kille@cs.ucl.ac.uk>
Cc: <rare-wg1@switch.ch>, <pp-people@cs.ucl.ac.uk>,
        <mhsnews@ICS.UCI.edu.NONE.no>, <ietf-osi-x400@cs.wisc.edu.NONE.no>,
        <rd-mhs-managers@rare.uninett>
In-Reply-To: <802.655381297@UK.AC.UCL.CS >
References: <Your>,
	<message>,
	<of>,
	<Thu>,
	<900927170926*@MHSk>,
	<802.655381297@UK.AC.UCL.CS>
Subject: Re: The NSF X.400 Pilot Project.
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Steve,

Some comments to your thoughts:

Remember we are not building THE Internet X.400 service. We are doing
an experiment, and I really hope that the NSF X400 Pilot Project will
contribute to actions in the direction you are indicating.

We are working on a position paper that addresses many of the issues
you raise. We will use this to initiate a broad discussion in the
Internet community. We plan to use the pilot as a testbed for
proving the workability of various solutions. I hope that in the
end the views will converge, such that the plans and models you
are asking for can be developed based on consensus.

Looking forward to meet you at Interop and discuss this further.

Best regards,
Alf H.

MAILER-DAEMON@nac.no (Mail Delivery Subsystem) (10/10/90)

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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 1990 21:39:08 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de>
Subject: Returned mail: unknown mailer error 1
Reply-To: <MAILER-DAEMON@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de>
Message-Id: <9010090330.AA05092@gshegering1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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mail: cannot append to /usr/spool/mail/kaiser
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554 <kaiser@gshegering1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>... unknown mailer error 1

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Reply-To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Received: by uninett with X.400; 08 Oct 90 15:37:04+0100
Date: 08 Oct 90 15:37:04+0100
From: "SINTEF/RUNIT mta-adm." <ean@sintef.uninett>
To: <mhsnews@sintef.uninett>
Subject: Apologees from Uninett
Message-Id: <37*ean@sintef.uninett>
Autoforwarded: True

for last days of mailing loops from the mhsnews@sintef.no (eu-mhsnews)
mailing list.  It happened due to a "shortcircuiting" resonnaiment made
during an attempt to displace the lists to another host machine.

--Harald Eikrem      postmaster@sintef.no   postmaster@uninett.no

MAILER-DAEMON@nac.no (Mail Delivery Subsystem) (10/10/90)

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	id <nac.655509901>; Tue, 9 Oct 1990 23:04:44 +0100
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 1990 23:04:44 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@nac.no>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Subject: Returned mail: Unable to deliver mail
Message-Id: <655509674.1520.0@nac.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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	id <nac.655505714>; Tue, 9 Oct 1990 21:40:26 +0100
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 1990 21:40:26 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de>
Subject: Returned mail: unknown mailer error 1
Reply-To: <MAILER-DAEMON@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de>
Message-Id: <9010090342.AA05118@gshegering1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
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	id AA05116; Tue, 9 Oct 90 04:42:32 +0100
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Date: 09 Oct 90 03:36:42+0100
From: <mhsnews-request@ICS.UCI.edu.NONE.no>
Sender: <mailmod@ICS.UCI.edu.NONE.no>
To: <mhsnews@ICS.UCI.edu.NONE.no>
Cc: <mhsnews-request@ICS.UCI.edu.NONE.no>
Reply-To: <mhsnews-request@ICS.UCI.edu.NONE.no>
Subject: administrative note: mail loop terminated
Message-Id: <3798.655430047@ics.uci.edu>
Autoforwarded: True

In spite of the explanatory message from the European MHSNews list
maintainers, I've received a number of late inquiries about the tidal
wave of error messages that looped through MHSNews.  So, I thought I'd
drop a note to MHSNews myself to explain what happened.

To provide y'all with some background, the MHSNews list is split into
two parts: a "North American" side and a "European" side.  The North
American side is maintained here at ics.uci.edu, and the European side
is maintained at sintef.no, aka uninett.  When the universe smiles
upon us, mail flows in both directions, and both sides see all the
messages.

According to the note from the good folks at sintef.no who are in
charge of the European side of the MHSNews list, they moved their list
over to a new machine.  Unfortunately, in the process, something broke
horribly, causing at least one particular failed mail message to be
propagated back through the list, 'round and 'round.  This is why you
all saw multiple copies of these error messages.

The postmaster at sintef.no found the problem relatively quickly,
fixed it, and notified the list about what happened.  That
notification is included below, in case any of you missed it.  A few
stragglers from the loop may still be oozing their way across various
network connections, but the primary problem has been fixed already.
At least, no more copies have shown up here.  I wouldn't be surprised
if some of you out there see a few last error messages squirming out
of the net-muck, but try to be patient, and it should stop altogether.

s/ Jerry Sweet
MHSNews-Request@ICS.UCI.EDU

------- Forwarded message

Date: 8 Oct 90 14:48:06 GMT
From: ean@sintef.no ("SINTEF/RUNIT mta-adm.")
Subject: Apologees from Uninett

for last days of mailing loops from the mhsnews@sintef.no (eu-mhsnews)
mailing list.  It happened due to a "shortcircuiting" resonnaiment made
during an attempt to displace the lists to another host machine.

--Harald Eikrem      postmaster@sintef.no   postmaster@uninett.no

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MAILER-DAEMON@nac.no (Mail Delivery Subsystem) (10/10/90)

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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 1990 23:07:06 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@nac.no>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Subject: Returned mail: Unable to deliver mail
Message-Id: <655510020.1878.0@nac.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 1990 21:36:26 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de>
Subject: Returned mail: unknown mailer error 1
Reply-To: <MAILER-DAEMON@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de>
Message-Id: <9010081714.AA03962@gshegering1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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Received: by uninett with X.400; 08 Oct 90 06:36:49+0100
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From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr.NONE.no>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080437.AB05787@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: True

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Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080334.AB05773@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
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<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
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550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 04:47:14 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@nac.no>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Subject: Returned mail: Unable to deliver mail
Message-Id: <655357631.16502.0@nac.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080042.AC05574@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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Date: Sun, 7 Oct 1990 07:47:49 +0100
From: Erik Naggum <enag@ifi.uio.no>, Jerry Sweet <mailmod@ICS.UCI.edu>
Sender: Erik Naggum <enag@ifi.uio.no>
To: <mhsnews@ICS.UCI.edu>, <mhsnews@ICS.UCI.edu>
Subject: Re: UUCP handling slash in ORAddress
In-Reply-To: <khiem@hpindda.cup.hp.COM's message of 6 Oct 90 17:59:18 GMT>
Message-Id: <ENAG.90Oct7014902@hild.ifi.uio.no>
References: <47920012@hpindda.cup.hp.com>
Message-Id: <6313.655280431@ics.uci.edu>
Message-Id: <655282062.14459.0@runix.runit.sintef.no>
Autoforwarded: true
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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400
Path: enag
Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway
Lines: 33

In article <47920012@hpindda.cup.hp.com> khiem@hpindda.cup.hp.COM (Khiem Ho) writes:

   There was some discussion a while back about the ORAddress in
   string form. Various systems now use the convention "/attribute=value".
   We have encountered some problem with using the "/" in ORAddress
   with UUCP (Honeyman-D????). Have anyone encountered other problems with
   slash in ORAddress with UUCP?

What an anachronism!  Is this because you try to use that infernal
ORaddress syntax in some kind of UUCP<->Internet<->X.400 gateway
thing?  "X.400 croaked for want of a slash."  :-D

If you run UUCP <-> X.400 gateways, why not send the binary image to
some special program on the other side which understands the X.400
message?  No need to resort to the RFC 1138/48 (whatever) or RFC 987
mapping.  UUCP is supposed to be 8-bit clean, anyhow.

Oh, well, if someone takes this seriously and does it, let me know.

Another solution is perhaps to write out some batch smtp stuff and
mail it off to a b-smtp program which can decode that envelope.  Or
invent something new.

Whatever.  But please, please, don't consider the character set legal
on an rmail command line (UUCP "envelope") as important enough to
think seriously about.  It may not go away, but there are better ways
around that problem than to restrict the character set of ORaddresses.
Believe me, I know all about those restrictions.

--
[Erik Naggum]		Naggum Software; Gaustadalleen 21; 0371 OSLO; NORWAY
	I disclaim,	<erik@naggum.uu.no>, <enag@ifi.uio.no>
  therefore I post.	+47-295-8622, +47-256-7822, (fax) +47-260-4427

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From: "R. Sonneveld, ICP, NAD, ICP@HLSDNL5.BITnet, +31 70 435362" <RE_Sonneveld@pttrnl.nl>,
        Jerry Sweet <mailmod@ICS.UCI.edu.NONE.no>
Sender: <mhsnews-request@ICS.UCI.edu.NONE.no>
To: <mhsnews@ICS.UCI.edu.NONE.no>, <mhsnews@ICS.UCI.edu.NONE.no>
Subject: Re: RARE MHS Project
Message-Id: <51556.2710af60@pttrnl.nl>
References: <44.2706B049@puddle.fidonet.org>
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In article <44.2706B049@puddle.fidonet.org>, LEVY.UNDEEB@f4.n494.z5.fidonet.ORG (LEVY UNDEEB) writes:
>
> Can anyone please furnish me with a contact name and address for the
> European RARE MHS Project?
>
> Thanks in anticipation
>
> David C Levy            levy.undeeb@f4.n494.z5.fidonet.org
> University of Natal     Tel: SA-31-816-2727
> Durban 4001             Fax: SA-31-811-733
> South Africa
> --
> uucp: uunet!m2xenix!puddle!5!494!4!LEVY.UNDEEB
> Internet: LEVY.UNDEEB@f4.n494.z5.fidonet.org

You can try to contact Alf Hansen (Alf.Hansen@pilot.cs.wisc.edu) or the RARE
secretariat (raresec@nikhefh.nikhef.nl) for more information.

Regards,

--

Rolf Sonneveld
PTT Research
The Netherlands

MAILER-DAEMON@nac.no (Mail Delivery Subsystem) (10/10/90)

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From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@nac.no>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Subject: Returned mail: Unable to deliver mail
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        Jerry Sweet <mailmod@ICS.UCI.edu.NONE.no>
Sender: <mhsnews-request@ICS.UCI.edu.NONE.no>
To: <mhsnews@ICS.UCI.edu.NONE.no>, <mhsnews@ICS.UCI.edu.NONE.no>
Subject: Re: RARE MHS Project
Message-Id: <51556.2710af60@pttrnl.nl>
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Lines: 25

In article <44.2706B049@puddle.fidonet.org>, LEVY.UNDEEB@f4.n494.z5.fidonet.ORG (LEVY UNDEEB) writes:
>
> Can anyone please furnish me with a contact name and address for the
> European RARE MHS Project?
>
> Thanks in anticipation
>
> David C Levy            levy.undeeb@f4.n494.z5.fidonet.org
> University of Natal     Tel: SA-31-816-2727
> Durban 4001             Fax: SA-31-811-733
> South Africa
> --
> uucp: uunet!m2xenix!puddle!5!494!4!LEVY.UNDEEB
> Internet: LEVY.UNDEEB@f4.n494.z5.fidonet.org

You can try to contact Alf Hansen (Alf.Hansen@pilot.cs.wisc.edu) or the RARE
secretariat (raresec@nikhefh.nikhef.nl) for more information.

Regards,

--

Rolf Sonneveld
PTT Research
The Netherlands

MAILER-DAEMON@nac.no (Mail Delivery Subsystem) (10/10/90)

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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 1990 21:39:16 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de>
Subject: Returned mail: unknown mailer error 1
Reply-To: <MAILER-DAEMON@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de>
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Received: by uninett with X.400; 08 Oct 90 23:16:08+0100
Date: 08 Oct 90 23:16:08+0100
From: Steve Kille <S.Kille@cs.ucl.ac.uk>
To: Alf Hansen <Alf.Hansen@cs.uw-madison.xnren.NONE.us>
Cc: <pp-people@cs.ucl.ac.uk>, <rare-wg1@switch.ch>,
        <mhsnews@ICS.UCI.edu.NONE.no>, <ietf-osi-x400@cs.wisc.edu.NONE.no>,
        <rd-mhs-managers@rare.uninett>
Subject: Re: The NSF X.400 Pilot Project.
References: <Your message of Thu>,
	<900927170926*@MHSk>
Message-Id: <802.655381297@UK.AC.UCL.CS>
Autoforwarded: True
Phone: +44-71-380-7294

Alf,

Thanks for this message.  I hope that your piloting activities and PP will
have a useful symbiosis.

A few thoughts:

1) I find the Internet X.400 piloting discussions difficult, as they seem to
occur in a policy vacuum (this statement is meant to be provocative).  Your
description is of laying out a pilot service, with transition to full
service.  However, I don't see this reflected in overall strategy for the
Internet (e.g., as RFCs on overall plan or IETF minutes).

2) Your service model is very oriented to the "external view".  This
facilitates connection of other WEPs and external commercial services using
X.400.  There needs to be more focus on an "internal" view.   I'd like
to see:
   - Information as to benefits of joining the pilot (short term,
   	strategic)
   - Model for an organisation to transition / join the pilot.  This is
   	non-trivial for any organisation with a serious commitment
	to local messaging services
   - managing links within the PRMD (X.400 is oriented to bilaterally
   	agreed links), and intra-PRMD routing.
I don't see how the external aspects can be tackled as any sort of service,
until there is a coherent internal view.  This needs to be considered in
terms of overall message service for the organisation, and not just X.400.

3) On managing 987 /1148 mapping tables for PP.   UCl provides PP format
mapping tables derived from the international tables, which PP sites
can pull on a regular basis.   US PP sites should submit any mappings
they need through you.  This will ensure that the mapping is a genuinely
global one.


Steve

MAILER-DAEMON@nac.no (Mail Delivery Subsystem) (10/10/90)

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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 1990 21:39:16 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de>
Subject: Returned mail: unknown mailer error 1
Reply-To: <MAILER-DAEMON@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de>
Message-Id: <9010090330.AA05096@gshegering1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
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Autoforwarded: true

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Received: by uninett with X.400; 08 Oct 90 23:16:08+0100
Date: 08 Oct 90 23:16:08+0100
From: Steve Kille <S.Kille@cs.ucl.ac.uk>
To: Alf Hansen <Alf.Hansen@cs.uw-madison.xnren.NONE.us>
Cc: <pp-people@cs.ucl.ac.uk>, <rare-wg1@switch.ch>,
        <mhsnews@ICS.UCI.edu.NONE.no>, <ietf-osi-x400@cs.wisc.edu.NONE.no>,
        <rd-mhs-managers@rare.uninett>
Subject: Re: The NSF X.400 Pilot Project.
References: <Your message of Thu>,
	<900927170926*@MHSk>
Message-Id: <802.655381297@UK.AC.UCL.CS>
Autoforwarded: True
Phone: +44-71-380-7294

Alf,

Thanks for this message.  I hope that your piloting activities and PP will
have a useful symbiosis.

A few thoughts:

1) I find the Internet X.400 piloting discussions difficult, as they seem to
occur in a policy vacuum (this statement is meant to be provocative).  Your
description is of laying out a pilot service, with transition to full
service.  However, I don't see this reflected in overall strategy for the
Internet (e.g., as RFCs on overall plan or IETF minutes).

2) Your service model is very oriented to the "external view".  This
facilitates connection of other WEPs and external commercial services using
X.400.  There needs to be more focus on an "internal" view.   I'd like
to see:
   - Information as to benefits of joining the pilot (short term,
   	strategic)
   - Model for an organisation to transition / join the pilot.  This is
   	non-trivial for any organisation with a serious commitment
	to local messaging services
   - managing links within the PRMD (X.400 is oriented to bilaterally
   	agreed links), and intra-PRMD routing.
I don't see how the external aspects can be tackled as any sort of service,
until there is a coherent internal view.  This needs to be considered in
terms of overall message service for the organisation, and not just X.400.

3) On managing 987 /1148 mapping tables for PP.   UCl provides PP format
mapping tables derived from the international tables, which PP sites
can pull on a regular basis.   US PP sites should submit any mappings
they need through you.  This will ensure that the mapping is a genuinely
global one.


Steve

MAILER-DAEMON@nac.no (Mail Delivery Subsystem) (10/10/90)

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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 1990 21:40:26 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de>
Subject: Returned mail: unknown mailer error 1
Reply-To: <MAILER-DAEMON@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de>
Message-Id: <9010090342.AA05118@gshegering1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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Date: 09 Oct 90 03:36:42+0100
From: <mhsnews-request@ICS.UCI.edu.NONE.no>
Sender: <mailmod@ICS.UCI.edu.NONE.no>
To: <mhsnews@ICS.UCI.edu.NONE.no>
Cc: <mhsnews-request@ICS.UCI.edu.NONE.no>
Reply-To: <mhsnews-request@ICS.UCI.edu.NONE.no>
Subject: administrative note: mail loop terminated
Message-Id: <3798.655430047@ics.uci.edu>
Autoforwarded: True

In spite of the explanatory message from the European MHSNews list
maintainers, I've received a number of late inquiries about the tidal
wave of error messages that looped through MHSNews.  So, I thought I'd
drop a note to MHSNews myself to explain what happened.

To provide y'all with some background, the MHSNews list is split into
two parts: a "North American" side and a "European" side.  The North
American side is maintained here at ics.uci.edu, and the European side
is maintained at sintef.no, aka uninett.  When the universe smiles
upon us, mail flows in both directions, and both sides see all the
messages.

According to the note from the good folks at sintef.no who are in
charge of the European side of the MHSNews list, they moved their list
over to a new machine.  Unfortunately, in the process, something broke
horribly, causing at least one particular failed mail message to be
propagated back through the list, 'round and 'round.  This is why you
all saw multiple copies of these error messages.

The postmaster at sintef.no found the problem relatively quickly,
fixed it, and notified the list about what happened.  That
notification is included below, in case any of you missed it.  A few
stragglers from the loop may still be oozing their way across various
network connections, but the primary problem has been fixed already.
At least, no more copies have shown up here.  I wouldn't be surprised
if some of you out there see a few last error messages squirming out
of the net-muck, but try to be patient, and it should stop altogether.

s/ Jerry Sweet
MHSNews-Request@ICS.UCI.EDU

------- Forwarded message

Date: 8 Oct 90 14:48:06 GMT
From: ean@sintef.no ("SINTEF/RUNIT mta-adm.")
Subject: Apologees from Uninett

for last days of mailing loops from the mhsnews@sintef.no (eu-mhsnews)
mailing list.  It happened due to a "shortcircuiting" resonnaiment made
during an attempt to displace the lists to another host machine.

--Harald Eikrem      postmaster@sintef.no   postmaster@uninett.no

------- End forwarded message

MAILER-DAEMON@nac.no (Mail Delivery Subsystem) (10/10/90)

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554 xfAAnac25946: line 10: <yonadav@taurus.bitnet>... Host taurus not known within the bitnet domain
554 xfAAnac25946: line 12: <DICOM2@ibacsata.earn>... Domain earn not known--please try to route manually
554 xfAAnac25946: line 13: <MHSNEWS@ibacsata.earn>... Domain earn not known--please try to route manually
554 xfAAnac25946: line 15: <vesalainen@haseoc.bitnet>... Host haseoc not known within the bitnet domain
554 xfAAnac25946: line 23: <VAL044@dd0rud81.bitnet>... Host dd0rud81 not known within the bitnet domain

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
Received: from localhost by nac.no (5.64+IDA/Babel-1.6/6.0) with SMTP
	id AAnac25946; Tue, 9 Oct 1990 22:02:35 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655506160>; Tue, 9 Oct 1990 21:36:26 +0100
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 1990 21:36:26 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de>
Subject: Returned mail: unknown mailer error 1
Reply-To: <MAILER-DAEMON@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de>
Message-Id: <9010081714.AA03962@gshegering1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
mail: cannot append to /usr/spool/mail/kaiser
Mail saved in dead.letter
554 <kaiser@gshegering1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>... unknown mailer error 1

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Received: by gshegering1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (5.61++L/TUMinfo2.6Ni/SMTP)
	from tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
	id AA03940; Mon, 8 Oct 90 18:14:08 +0100
Received: by tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (5.61++L/TUMinfo2.6R/SMTP)
	from tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
	id AA03048; Mon, 8 Oct 90 18:17:19 +0100
Reply-To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Received: by uninett with X.400; 08 Oct 90 06:36:49+0100
Date: 08 Oct 90 06:36:49+0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr.NONE.no>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080437.AB05787@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: True

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
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	id AA05469; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:31:16 KDT
Received: from uhics.ics.hawaii.edu by kum.kaist.ac.kr (4.0/KUM-0.1)
	id AA08203; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:14:20 KDT
Received: from mcsun.EU.net by uhics.ics.hawaii.edu (4.1/UHICS-MX-1.4)
	id AA00704; Sun, 7 Oct 90 19:29:57 HST
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	id AAnac20408; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:34:15 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655364062>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:34:13 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:34:13 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080334.AB05773@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
Received: from garam.seri.re.kr by sokri.etri.re.kr (4.0/5.17)
Received: from kum.kaist.ac.kr  by garam.seri.re.kr (4.0/GARAM-0.1)
	id AA04962; Mon, 8 Oct 90 13:29:19 KDT
Received: from uhics.ics.hawaii.edu by kum.kaist.ac.kr (4.0/KUM-0.1)
	id AA07765; Mon, 8 Oct 90 12:30:07 KDT
Received: from mcsun.EU.net by uhics.ics.hawaii.edu (4.1/UHICS-MX-1.4)
	id AA00542; Sun, 7 Oct 90 17:45:50 HST
Received: by mcsun.EU.net with SMTP; Mon, 8 Oct 90 04:50:37 +0100
Received: from localhost by nac.no (5.64+IDA/Babel-1.6/6.0) with SMTP
	id AAnac16542; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 04:50:12 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655357818>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 04:47:14 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 04:47:14 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@nac.no>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Subject: Returned mail: Unable to deliver mail
Message-Id: <655357631.16502.0@nac.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
554 xfAAnac10384: line 10: <yonadav@taurus.bitnet>... Host taurus not known within the bitnet domain
554 xfAAnac10384: line 12: <DICOM2@ibacsata.earn>... Domain earn not known--please try to route manually
554 xfAAnac10384: line 13: <MHSNEWS@ibacsata.earn>... Domain earn not known--please try to route manually
554 xfAAnac10384: line 15: <vesalainen@haseoc.bitnet>... Host haseoc not known within the bitnet domain
554 xfAAnac10384: line 24: <VAL044@dd0rud81.bitnet>... Host dd0rud81 not known within the bitnet domain

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
Received: from localhost by nac.no (5.64+IDA/Babel-1.6/6.0) with SMTP
	id AAnac10384; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 02:52:44 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655350779>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 02:52:36 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 02:52:36 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080042.AC05574@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
Received: from garam.seri.re.kr by sokri.etri.re.kr (4.0/5.17)
Received: from kum.kaist.ac.kr  by garam.seri.re.kr (4.0/GARAM-0.1)
	id AA03802; Sun, 7 Oct 90 15:46:46 KDT
Received: from uhics.ics.hawaii.edu by kum.kaist.ac.kr (4.0/KUM-0.1)
	id AA04604; Sun, 7 Oct 90 15:29:49 KDT
Received: from mcsun.EU.net by uhics.ics.hawaii.edu (4.1/UHICS-MX-1.4)
	id AA04443; Sat, 6 Oct 90 20:45:31 HST
Received: by mcsun.EU.net with SMTP; Sun, 7 Oct 90 07:50:18 +0100
Received: from localhost by nac.no (5.64+IDA/Babel-1.6/6.0) with SMTP
	id AAnac29214; Sun, 7 Oct 1990 07:49:56 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655282206>; Sun, 7 Oct 1990 07:47:49 +0100
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 1990 07:47:49 +0100
From: Erik Naggum <enag@ifi.uio.no>, Jerry Sweet <mailmod@ICS.UCI.edu>
Sender: Erik Naggum <enag@ifi.uio.no>
To: <mhsnews@ICS.UCI.edu>, <mhsnews@ICS.UCI.edu>
Subject: Re: UUCP handling slash in ORAddress
In-Reply-To: <khiem@hpindda.cup.hp.COM's message of 6 Oct 90 17:59:18 GMT>
Message-Id: <ENAG.90Oct7014902@hild.ifi.uio.no>
References: <47920012@hpindda.cup.hp.com>
Message-Id: <6313.655280431@ics.uci.edu>
Message-Id: <655282062.14459.0@runix.runit.sintef.no>
Autoforwarded: true
X-Attn: jns
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400
Path: enag
Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway
Lines: 33

In article <47920012@hpindda.cup.hp.com> khiem@hpindda.cup.hp.COM (Khiem Ho) writes:

   There was some discussion a while back about the ORAddress in
   string form. Various systems now use the convention "/attribute=value".
   We have encountered some problem with using the "/" in ORAddress
   with UUCP (Honeyman-D????). Have anyone encountered other problems with
   slash in ORAddress with UUCP?

What an anachronism!  Is this because you try to use that infernal
ORaddress syntax in some kind of UUCP<->Internet<->X.400 gateway
thing?  "X.400 croaked for want of a slash."  :-D

If you run UUCP <-> X.400 gateways, why not send the binary image to
some special program on the other side which understands the X.400
message?  No need to resort to the RFC 1138/48 (whatever) or RFC 987
mapping.  UUCP is supposed to be 8-bit clean, anyhow.

Oh, well, if someone takes this seriously and does it, let me know.

Another solution is perhaps to write out some batch smtp stuff and
mail it off to a b-smtp program which can decode that envelope.  Or
invent something new.

Whatever.  But please, please, don't consider the character set legal
on an rmail command line (UUCP "envelope") as important enough to
think seriously about.  It may not go away, but there are better ways
around that problem than to restrict the character set of ORaddresses.
Believe me, I know all about those restrictions.

--
[Erik Naggum]		Naggum Software; Gaustadalleen 21; 0371 OSLO; NORWAY
	I disclaim,	<erik@naggum.uu.no>, <enag@ifi.uio.no>
  therefore I post.	+47-295-8622, +47-256-7822, (fax) +47-260-4427

MAILER-DAEMON@nac.no (Mail Delivery Subsystem) (10/10/90)

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554 xfAAnac25919: line 10: <yonadav@taurus.bitnet>... Host taurus not known within the bitnet domain
554 xfAAnac25919: line 12: <DICOM2@ibacsata.earn>... Domain earn not known--please try to route manually
554 xfAAnac25919: line 13: <MHSNEWS@ibacsata.earn>... Domain earn not known--please try to route manually
554 xfAAnac25919: line 15: <vesalainen@haseoc.bitnet>... Host haseoc not known within the bitnet domain
554 xfAAnac25919: line 23: <VAL044@dd0rud81.bitnet>... Host dd0rud81 not known within the bitnet domain

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
Received: from localhost by nac.no (5.64+IDA/Babel-1.6/6.0) with SMTP
	id AAnac25919; Tue, 9 Oct 1990 22:02:10 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655506134>; Tue, 9 Oct 1990 21:36:44 +0100
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 1990 21:36:44 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de>
Subject: Returned mail: unknown mailer error 1
Reply-To: <MAILER-DAEMON@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de>
Message-Id: <9010081713.AA03957@gshegering1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
mail: cannot append to /usr/spool/mail/kaiser
Mail saved in dead.letter
554 <kaiser@gshegering1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>... unknown mailer error 1

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
Received: by gshegering1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (5.61++L/TUMinfo2.6Ni/SMTP)
	from tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
	id AA03935; Mon, 8 Oct 90 18:13:50 +0100
Received: by tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (5.61++L/TUMinfo2.6R/SMTP)
	from tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
	id AA03041; Mon, 8 Oct 90 18:17:01 +0100
Reply-To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Received: by uninett with X.400; 08 Oct 90 06:39:02+0100
Date: 08 Oct 90 06:39:02+0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr.NONE.no>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080439.AB05794@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: True

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
Received: from garam.seri.re.kr by sokri.etri.re.kr (4.0/5.17)
Received: from kum.kaist.ac.kr  by garam.seri.re.kr (4.0/GARAM-0.1)
	id AA05496; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:33:48 KDT
Received: from uhics.ics.hawaii.edu by kum.kaist.ac.kr (4.0/KUM-0.1)
	id AA08217; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:16:48 KDT
Received: from mcsun.EU.net by uhics.ics.hawaii.edu (4.1/UHICS-MX-1.4)
	id AA00710; Sun, 7 Oct 90 19:32:30 HST
Received: by mcsun.EU.net with SMTP; Mon, 8 Oct 90 06:37:16 +0100
Received: from localhost by nac.no (5.64+IDA/Babel-1.6/6.0) with SMTP
	id AAnac20427; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:36:54 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655364216>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:36:52 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:36:52 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080437.AB05787@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
Received: from garam.seri.re.kr by sokri.etri.re.kr (4.0/5.17)
Received: from kum.kaist.ac.kr  by garam.seri.re.kr (4.0/GARAM-0.1)
	id AA05469; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:31:16 KDT
Received: from uhics.ics.hawaii.edu by kum.kaist.ac.kr (4.0/KUM-0.1)
	id AA08203; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:14:20 KDT
Received: from mcsun.EU.net by uhics.ics.hawaii.edu (4.1/UHICS-MX-1.4)
	id AA00704; Sun, 7 Oct 90 19:29:57 HST
Received: by mcsun.EU.net with SMTP; Mon, 8 Oct 90 06:34:45 +0100
Received: from localhost by nac.no (5.64+IDA/Babel-1.6/6.0) with SMTP
	id AAnac20408; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:34:15 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655364062>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:34:13 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:34:13 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080334.AB05773@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
Received: from garam.seri.re.kr by sokri.etri.re.kr (4.0/5.17)
Received: from kum.kaist.ac.kr  by garam.seri.re.kr (4.0/GARAM-0.1)
	id AA04962; Mon, 8 Oct 90 13:29:19 KDT
Received: from uhics.ics.hawaii.edu by kum.kaist.ac.kr (4.0/KUM-0.1)
	id AA07765; Mon, 8 Oct 90 12:30:07 KDT
Received: from mcsun.EU.net by uhics.ics.hawaii.edu (4.1/UHICS-MX-1.4)
	id AA00542; Sun, 7 Oct 90 17:45:50 HST
Received: by mcsun.EU.net with SMTP; Mon, 8 Oct 90 04:50:37 +0100
Received: from localhost by nac.no (5.64+IDA/Babel-1.6/6.0) with SMTP
	id AAnac16542; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 04:50:12 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655357818>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 04:47:14 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 04:47:14 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@nac.no>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Subject: Returned mail: Unable to deliver mail
Message-Id: <655357631.16502.0@nac.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
554 xfAAnac10384: line 10: <yonadav@taurus.bitnet>... Host taurus not known within the bitnet domain
554 xfAAnac10384: line 12: <DICOM2@ibacsata.earn>... Domain earn not known--please try to route manually
554 xfAAnac10384: line 13: <MHSNEWS@ibacsata.earn>... Domain earn not known--please try to route manually
554 xfAAnac10384: line 15: <vesalainen@haseoc.bitnet>... Host haseoc not known within the bitnet domain
554 xfAAnac10384: line 24: <VAL044@dd0rud81.bitnet>... Host dd0rud81 not known within the bitnet domain

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
Received: from localhost by nac.no (5.64+IDA/Babel-1.6/6.0) with SMTP
	id AAnac10384; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 02:52:44 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655350779>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 02:52:36 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 02:52:36 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080042.AC05574@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
Received: from garam.seri.re.kr by sokri.etri.re.kr (4.0/5.17)
Received: from kum.kaist.ac.kr  by garam.seri.re.kr (4.0/GARAM-0.1)
	id AA03802; Sun, 7 Oct 90 15:46:46 KDT
Received: from uhics.ics.hawaii.edu by kum.kaist.ac.kr (4.0/KUM-0.1)
	id AA04604; Sun, 7 Oct 90 15:29:49 KDT
Received: from mcsun.EU.net by uhics.ics.hawaii.edu (4.1/UHICS-MX-1.4)
	id AA04443; Sat, 6 Oct 90 20:45:31 HST
Received: by mcsun.EU.net with SMTP; Sun, 7 Oct 90 07:50:18 +0100
Received: from localhost by nac.no (5.64+IDA/Babel-1.6/6.0) with SMTP
	id AAnac29214; Sun, 7 Oct 1990 07:49:56 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655282206>; Sun, 7 Oct 1990 07:47:49 +0100
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 1990 07:47:49 +0100
From: Erik Naggum <enag@ifi.uio.no>, Jerry Sweet <mailmod@ICS.UCI.edu>
Sender: Erik Naggum <enag@ifi.uio.no>
To: <mhsnews@ICS.UCI.edu>, <mhsnews@ICS.UCI.edu>
Subject: Re: UUCP handling slash in ORAddress
In-Reply-To: <khiem@hpindda.cup.hp.COM's message of 6 Oct 90 17:59:18 GMT>
Message-Id: <ENAG.90Oct7014902@hild.ifi.uio.no>
References: <47920012@hpindda.cup.hp.com>
Message-Id: <6313.655280431@ics.uci.edu>
Message-Id: <655282062.14459.0@runix.runit.sintef.no>
Autoforwarded: true
X-Attn: jns
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400
Path: enag
Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway
Lines: 33

In article <47920012@hpindda.cup.hp.com> khiem@hpindda.cup.hp.COM (Khiem Ho) writes:

   There was some discussion a while back about the ORAddress in
   string form. Various systems now use the convention "/attribute=value".
   We have encountered some problem with using the "/" in ORAddress
   with UUCP (Honeyman-D????). Have anyone encountered other problems with
   slash in ORAddress with UUCP?

What an anachronism!  Is this because you try to use that infernal
ORaddress syntax in some kind of UUCP<->Internet<->X.400 gateway
thing?  "X.400 croaked for want of a slash."  :-D

If you run UUCP <-> X.400 gateways, why not send the binary image to
some special program on the other side which understands the X.400
message?  No need to resort to the RFC 1138/48 (whatever) or RFC 987
mapping.  UUCP is supposed to be 8-bit clean, anyhow.

Oh, well, if someone takes this seriously and does it, let me know.

Another solution is perhaps to write out some batch smtp stuff and
mail it off to a b-smtp program which can decode that envelope.  Or
invent something new.

Whatever.  But please, please, don't consider the character set legal
on an rmail command line (UUCP "envelope") as important enough to
think seriously about.  It may not go away, but there are better ways
around that problem than to restrict the character set of ORaddresses.
Believe me, I know all about those restrictions.

--
[Erik Naggum]		Naggum Software; Gaustadalleen 21; 0371 OSLO; NORWAY
	I disclaim,	<erik@naggum.uu.no>, <enag@ifi.uio.no>
  therefore I post.	+47-295-8622, +47-256-7822, (fax) +47-260-4427

MAILER-DAEMON@nac.no (Mail Delivery Subsystem) (10/10/90)

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554 xfAAnac25970: line 10: <yonadav@taurus.bitnet>... Host taurus not known within the bitnet domain
554 xfAAnac25970: line 12: <DICOM2@ibacsata.earn>... Domain earn not known--please try to route manually
554 xfAAnac25970: line 13: <MHSNEWS@ibacsata.earn>... Domain earn not known--please try to route manually
554 xfAAnac25970: line 15: <vesalainen@haseoc.bitnet>... Host haseoc not known within the bitnet domain
554 xfAAnac25970: line 23: <VAL044@dd0rud81.bitnet>... Host dd0rud81 not known within the bitnet domain

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Received: from localhost by nac.no (5.64+IDA/Babel-1.6/6.0) with SMTP
	id AAnac25970; Tue, 9 Oct 1990 22:02:57 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655506189>; Tue, 9 Oct 1990 21:36:09 +0100
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 1990 21:36:09 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de>
Subject: Returned mail: unknown mailer error 1
Reply-To: <MAILER-DAEMON@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de>
Message-Id: <9010081806.AB04129@gshegering1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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mail: cannot append to /usr/spool/mail/kaiser
Mail saved in dead.letter
554 <kaiser@gshegering1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>... unknown mailer error 1

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
Received: by gshegering1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (5.61++L/TUMinfo2.6Ni/SMTP)
	from tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
	id AA03919; Mon, 8 Oct 90 18:12:43 +0100
Received: by tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (5.61++L/TUMinfo2.6R/SMTP)
	from tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
	id AA03016; Mon, 8 Oct 90 18:15:51 +0100
Reply-To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Received: by uninett with X.400; 08 Oct 90 06:50:59+0100
Date: 08 Oct 90 06:50:59+0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr.NONE.no>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080450.AB05823@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: True

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Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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	id AA05523; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:45:09 KDT
Received: from uhics.ics.hawaii.edu by kum.kaist.ac.kr (4.0/KUM-0.1)
	id AA08317; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:28:03 KDT
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Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655364812>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:46:47 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:46:47 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080447.AB05816@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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	id AA05517; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:41:43 KDT
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	id AAnac20526; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:44:21 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655364666>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:44:17 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:44:17 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080443.AB05809@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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	id AA05508; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:38:38 KDT
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	id AA08270; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:21:41 KDT
Received: from mcsun.EU.net by uhics.ics.hawaii.edu (4.1/UHICS-MX-1.4)
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	id AAnac20485; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:41:37 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655364502>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:41:33 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:41:33 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080441.AB05802@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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Received: from kum.kaist.ac.kr  by garam.seri.re.kr (4.0/GARAM-0.1)
	id AA05502; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:35:56 KDT
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	id AAnac20445; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:39:06 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655364349>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:39:05 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:39:05 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080439.AB05794@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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Received: from garam.seri.re.kr by sokri.etri.re.kr (4.0/5.17)
Received: from kum.kaist.ac.kr  by garam.seri.re.kr (4.0/GARAM-0.1)
	id AA05496; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:33:48 KDT
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	id AA08217; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:16:48 KDT
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	id AAnac20427; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:36:54 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655364216>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:36:52 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:36:52 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080437.AB05787@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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Received: from garam.seri.re.kr by sokri.etri.re.kr (4.0/5.17)
Received: from kum.kaist.ac.kr  by garam.seri.re.kr (4.0/GARAM-0.1)
	id AA05469; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:31:16 KDT
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	id AA08203; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:14:20 KDT
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	id AAnac20408; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:34:15 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655364062>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:34:13 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:34:13 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080334.AB05773@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
Received: from garam.seri.re.kr by sokri.etri.re.kr (4.0/5.17)
Received: from kum.kaist.ac.kr  by garam.seri.re.kr (4.0/GARAM-0.1)
	id AA04962; Mon, 8 Oct 90 13:29:19 KDT
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	id AA07765; Mon, 8 Oct 90 12:30:07 KDT
Received: from mcsun.EU.net by uhics.ics.hawaii.edu (4.1/UHICS-MX-1.4)
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Received: by mcsun.EU.net with SMTP; Mon, 8 Oct 90 04:50:37 +0100
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	id AAnac16542; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 04:50:12 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655357818>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 04:47:14 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 04:47:14 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@nac.no>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Subject: Returned mail: Unable to deliver mail
Message-Id: <655357631.16502.0@nac.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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554 xfAAnac10384: line 10: <yonadav@taurus.bitnet>... Host taurus not known within the bitnet domain
554 xfAAnac10384: line 12: <DICOM2@ibacsata.earn>... Domain earn not known--please try to route manually
554 xfAAnac10384: line 13: <MHSNEWS@ibacsata.earn>... Domain earn not known--please try to route manually
554 xfAAnac10384: line 15: <vesalainen@haseoc.bitnet>... Host haseoc not known within the bitnet domain
554 xfAAnac10384: line 24: <VAL044@dd0rud81.bitnet>... Host dd0rud81 not known within the bitnet domain

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
Received: from localhost by nac.no (5.64+IDA/Babel-1.6/6.0) with SMTP
	id AAnac10384; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 02:52:44 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655350779>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 02:52:36 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 02:52:36 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080042.AC05574@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
Received: from garam.seri.re.kr by sokri.etri.re.kr (4.0/5.17)
Received: from kum.kaist.ac.kr  by garam.seri.re.kr (4.0/GARAM-0.1)
	id AA03802; Sun, 7 Oct 90 15:46:46 KDT
Received: from uhics.ics.hawaii.edu by kum.kaist.ac.kr (4.0/KUM-0.1)
	id AA04604; Sun, 7 Oct 90 15:29:49 KDT
Received: from mcsun.EU.net by uhics.ics.hawaii.edu (4.1/UHICS-MX-1.4)
	id AA04443; Sat, 6 Oct 90 20:45:31 HST
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	id AAnac29214; Sun, 7 Oct 1990 07:49:56 +0100
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	id <nac.655282206>; Sun, 7 Oct 1990 07:47:49 +0100
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 1990 07:47:49 +0100
From: Erik Naggum <enag@ifi.uio.no>, Jerry Sweet <mailmod@ICS.UCI.edu>
Sender: Erik Naggum <enag@ifi.uio.no>
To: <mhsnews@ICS.UCI.edu>, <mhsnews@ICS.UCI.edu>
Subject: Re: UUCP handling slash in ORAddress
In-Reply-To: <khiem@hpindda.cup.hp.COM's message of 6 Oct 90 17:59:18 GMT>
Message-Id: <ENAG.90Oct7014902@hild.ifi.uio.no>
References: <47920012@hpindda.cup.hp.com>
Message-Id: <6313.655280431@ics.uci.edu>
Message-Id: <655282062.14459.0@runix.runit.sintef.no>
Autoforwarded: true
X-Attn: jns
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400
Path: enag
Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway
Lines: 33

In article <47920012@hpindda.cup.hp.com> khiem@hpindda.cup.hp.COM (Khiem Ho) writes:

   There was some discussion a while back about the ORAddress in
   string form. Various systems now use the convention "/attribute=value".
   We have encountered some problem with using the "/" in ORAddress
   with UUCP (Honeyman-D????). Have anyone encountered other problems with
   slash in ORAddress with UUCP?

What an anachronism!  Is this because you try to use that infernal
ORaddress syntax in some kind of UUCP<->Internet<->X.400 gateway
thing?  "X.400 croaked for want of a slash."  :-D

If you run UUCP <-> X.400 gateways, why not send the binary image to
some special program on the other side which understands the X.400
message?  No need to resort to the RFC 1138/48 (whatever) or RFC 987
mapping.  UUCP is supposed to be 8-bit clean, anyhow.

Oh, well, if someone takes this seriously and does it, let me know.

Another solution is perhaps to write out some batch smtp stuff and
mail it off to a b-smtp program which can decode that envelope.  Or
invent something new.

Whatever.  But please, please, don't consider the character set legal
on an rmail command line (UUCP "envelope") as important enough to
think seriously about.  It may not go away, but there are better ways
around that problem than to restrict the character set of ORaddresses.
Believe me, I know all about those restrictions.

--
[Erik Naggum]		Naggum Software; Gaustadalleen 21; 0371 OSLO; NORWAY
	I disclaim,	<erik@naggum.uu.no>, <enag@ifi.uio.no>
  therefore I post.	+47-295-8622, +47-256-7822, (fax) +47-260-4427

MAILER-DAEMON@nac.no (Mail Delivery Subsystem) (10/10/90)

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554 xfAAnac25890: line 10: <yonadav@taurus.bitnet>... Host taurus not known within the bitnet domain
554 xfAAnac25890: line 12: <DICOM2@ibacsata.earn>... Domain earn not known--please try to route manually
554 xfAAnac25890: line 13: <MHSNEWS@ibacsata.earn>... Domain earn not known--please try to route manually
554 xfAAnac25890: line 15: <vesalainen@haseoc.bitnet>... Host haseoc not known within the bitnet domain
554 xfAAnac25890: line 23: <VAL044@dd0rud81.bitnet>... Host dd0rud81 not known within the bitnet domain

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
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	id AAnac25890; Tue, 9 Oct 1990 22:01:45 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655506111>; Tue, 9 Oct 1990 21:37:14 +0100
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 1990 21:37:14 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de>
Subject: Returned mail: unknown mailer error 1
Reply-To: <MAILER-DAEMON@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de>
Message-Id: <9010081712.AA03937@gshegering1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
mail: cannot append to /usr/spool/mail/kaiser
Mail saved in dead.letter
554 <kaiser@gshegering1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>... unknown mailer error 1

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
Received: by gshegering1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (5.61++L/TUMinfo2.6Ni/SMTP)
	from tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
	id AA03913; Mon, 8 Oct 90 18:12:05 +0100
Received: by tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (5.61++L/TUMinfo2.6R/SMTP)
	from tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
	id AA03005; Mon, 8 Oct 90 18:15:13 +0100
Reply-To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Received: by uninett with X.400; 08 Oct 90 06:55:54+0100
Date: 08 Oct 90 06:55:54+0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr.NONE.no>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080455.AB05837@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: True

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
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Received: from kum.kaist.ac.kr  by garam.seri.re.kr (4.0/GARAM-0.1)
	id AA05540; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:50:23 KDT
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	id AAnac20622; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:53:18 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655365201>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:53:15 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:53:15 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080453.AB05830@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
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	id AA05529; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:48:06 KDT
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From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080450.AB05823@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:46:47 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080447.AB05816@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080443.AB05809@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:41:33 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080441.AB05802@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080439.AB05794@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080437.AB05787@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080334.AB05773@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@nac.no>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Subject: Returned mail: Unable to deliver mail
Message-Id: <655357631.16502.0@nac.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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554 xfAAnac10384: line 10: <yonadav@taurus.bitnet>... Host taurus not known within the bitnet domain
554 xfAAnac10384: line 12: <DICOM2@ibacsata.earn>... Domain earn not known--please try to route manually
554 xfAAnac10384: line 13: <MHSNEWS@ibacsata.earn>... Domain earn not known--please try to route manually
554 xfAAnac10384: line 15: <vesalainen@haseoc.bitnet>... Host haseoc not known within the bitnet domain
554 xfAAnac10384: line 24: <VAL044@dd0rud81.bitnet>... Host dd0rud81 not known within the bitnet domain

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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 02:52:36 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080042.AC05574@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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Date: Sun, 7 Oct 1990 07:47:49 +0100
From: Erik Naggum <enag@ifi.uio.no>, Jerry Sweet <mailmod@ICS.UCI.edu>
Sender: Erik Naggum <enag@ifi.uio.no>
To: <mhsnews@ICS.UCI.edu>, <mhsnews@ICS.UCI.edu>
Subject: Re: UUCP handling slash in ORAddress
In-Reply-To: <khiem@hpindda.cup.hp.COM's message of 6 Oct 90 17:59:18 GMT>
Message-Id: <ENAG.90Oct7014902@hild.ifi.uio.no>
References: <47920012@hpindda.cup.hp.com>
Message-Id: <6313.655280431@ics.uci.edu>
Message-Id: <655282062.14459.0@runix.runit.sintef.no>
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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400
Path: enag
Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway
Lines: 33

In article <47920012@hpindda.cup.hp.com> khiem@hpindda.cup.hp.COM (Khiem Ho) writes:

   There was some discussion a while back about the ORAddress in
   string form. Various systems now use the convention "/attribute=value".
   We have encountered some problem with using the "/" in ORAddress
   with UUCP (Honeyman-D????). Have anyone encountered other problems with
   slash in ORAddress with UUCP?

What an anachronism!  Is this because you try to use that infernal
ORaddress syntax in some kind of UUCP<->Internet<->X.400 gateway
thing?  "X.400 croaked for want of a slash."  :-D

If you run UUCP <-> X.400 gateways, why not send the binary image to
some special program on the other side which understands the X.400
message?  No need to resort to the RFC 1138/48 (whatever) or RFC 987
mapping.  UUCP is supposed to be 8-bit clean, anyhow.

Oh, well, if someone takes this seriously and does it, let me know.

Another solution is perhaps to write out some batch smtp stuff and
mail it off to a b-smtp program which can decode that envelope.  Or
invent something new.

Whatever.  But please, please, don't consider the character set legal
on an rmail command line (UUCP "envelope") as important enough to
think seriously about.  It may not go away, but there are better ways
around that problem than to restrict the character set of ORaddresses.
Believe me, I know all about those restrictions.

--
[Erik Naggum]		Naggum Software; Gaustadalleen 21; 0371 OSLO; NORWAY
	I disclaim,	<erik@naggum.uu.no>, <enag@ifi.uio.no>
  therefore I post.	+47-295-8622, +47-256-7822, (fax) +47-260-4427

MAILER-DAEMON@nac.no (Mail Delivery Subsystem) (10/10/90)

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554 xfAAnac25496: line 10: <yonadav@taurus.bitnet>... Host taurus not known within the bitnet domain
554 xfAAnac25496: line 12: <DICOM2@ibacsata.earn>... Domain earn not known--please try to route manually
554 xfAAnac25496: line 13: <MHSNEWS@ibacsata.earn>... Domain earn not known--please try to route manually
554 xfAAnac25496: line 15: <vesalainen@haseoc.bitnet>... Host haseoc not known within the bitnet domain
554 xfAAnac25496: line 23: <VAL044@dd0rud81.bitnet>... Host dd0rud81 not known within the bitnet domain

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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 1990 21:40:20 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de>
Subject: Returned mail: unknown mailer error 1
Reply-To: <MAILER-DAEMON@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de>
Message-Id: <9010090330.AA05099@gshegering1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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mail: cannot append to /usr/spool/mail/kaiser
Mail saved in dead.letter
554 <kaiser@gshegering1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>... unknown mailer error 1

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Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010081004.AB06057@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: True

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Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 11:59:06 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080958.AB06050@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 11:54:03 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080937.AB06029@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 11:33:59 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080933.AB06015@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
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	id AA05959; Mon, 8 Oct 90 19:27:59 KDT
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	id AA09529; Mon, 8 Oct 90 19:36:56 KDT
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Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655381806>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 11:29:54 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 11:29:54 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080929.AB05995@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
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Received: from kum.kaist.ac.kr  by garam.seri.re.kr (4.0/GARAM-0.1)
	id AA05941; Mon, 8 Oct 90 19:23:37 KDT
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	id AA09505; Mon, 8 Oct 90 19:32:34 KDT
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	id AAnac03585; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 11:25:25 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655381536>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 11:25:23 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 11:25:23 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080822.AB05963@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
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Received: from kum.kaist.ac.kr  by garam.seri.re.kr (4.0/GARAM-0.1)
	id AA05899; Mon, 8 Oct 90 18:16:35 KDT
Received: from uhics.ics.hawaii.edu by kum.kaist.ac.kr (4.0/KUM-0.1)
	id AA09419; Mon, 8 Oct 90 18:25:31 KDT
Received: from mcsun.EU.net by uhics.ics.hawaii.edu (4.1/UHICS-MX-1.4)
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	id AAnac29997; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 10:17:28 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655377454>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 10:17:25 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 10:17:25 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080816.AB05956@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
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Received: from kum.kaist.ac.kr  by garam.seri.re.kr (4.0/GARAM-0.1)
	id AA05891; Mon, 8 Oct 90 18:11:04 KDT
Received: from uhics.ics.hawaii.edu by kum.kaist.ac.kr (4.0/KUM-0.1)
	id AA09412; Mon, 8 Oct 90 18:20:00 KDT
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	id AAnac29941; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 10:12:21 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655377148>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 10:12:19 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 10:12:19 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080811.AB05944@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
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Received: from kum.kaist.ac.kr  by garam.seri.re.kr (4.0/GARAM-0.1)
	id AA05879; Mon, 8 Oct 90 18:06:26 KDT
Received: from uhics.ics.hawaii.edu by kum.kaist.ac.kr (4.0/KUM-0.1)
	id AA09391; Mon, 8 Oct 90 18:15:19 KDT
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	id AA01109; Sun, 7 Oct 90 23:04:48 HST
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	id AAnac27051; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 09:11:17 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655373488>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 09:11:13 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 09:11:13 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080704.AB05909@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
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Received: from kum.kaist.ac.kr  by garam.seri.re.kr (4.0/GARAM-0.1)
	id AA05788; Mon, 8 Oct 90 16:58:35 KDT
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	id AA09070; Mon, 8 Oct 90 17:07:30 KDT
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	id AA01036; Sun, 7 Oct 90 21:56:56 HST
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	id AAnac25515; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 08:34:43 +0100
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	id <nac.655371291>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 08:34:41 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 08:34:41 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080515.AB05872@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
Received: from garam.seri.re.kr by sokri.etri.re.kr (4.0/5.17)
Received: from kum.kaist.ac.kr  by garam.seri.re.kr (4.0/GARAM-0.1)
	id AA05605; Mon, 8 Oct 90 15:10:08 KDT
Received: from uhics.ics.hawaii.edu by kum.kaist.ac.kr (4.0/KUM-0.1)
	id AA08447; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:53:03 KDT
Received: from mcsun.EU.net by uhics.ics.hawaii.edu (4.1/UHICS-MX-1.4)
	id AA00796; Sun, 7 Oct 90 20:08:38 HST
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	id AAnac20826; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 07:12:48 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655366374>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 07:12:44 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 07:12:44 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080507.AB05864@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
Received: from garam.seri.re.kr by sokri.etri.re.kr (4.0/5.17)
Received: from kum.kaist.ac.kr  by garam.seri.re.kr (4.0/GARAM-0.1)
	id AA05582; Mon, 8 Oct 90 15:01:50 KDT
Received: from uhics.ics.hawaii.edu by kum.kaist.ac.kr (4.0/KUM-0.1)
	id AA08414; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:44:52 KDT
Received: from mcsun.EU.net by uhics.ics.hawaii.edu (4.1/UHICS-MX-1.4)
	id AA00775; Sun, 7 Oct 90 20:00:32 HST
Received: by mcsun.EU.net with SMTP; Mon, 8 Oct 90 07:05:17 +0100
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	id AAnac20775; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 07:04:45 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655365889>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 07:04:42 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 07:04:42 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080504.AB05857@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
Received: from garam.seri.re.kr by sokri.etri.re.kr (4.0/5.17)
Received: from kum.kaist.ac.kr  by garam.seri.re.kr (4.0/GARAM-0.1)
	id AA05572; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:59:14 KDT
Received: from uhics.ics.hawaii.edu by kum.kaist.ac.kr (4.0/KUM-0.1)
	id AA08400; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:42:12 KDT
Received: from mcsun.EU.net by uhics.ics.hawaii.edu (4.1/UHICS-MX-1.4)
	id AA00764; Sun, 7 Oct 90 19:57:51 HST
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Received: from localhost by nac.no (5.64+IDA/Babel-1.6/6.0) with SMTP
	id AAnac20686; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:58:38 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655365524>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:58:34 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:58:34 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080458.AB05844@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
Received: from garam.seri.re.kr by sokri.etri.re.kr (4.0/5.17)
Received: from kum.kaist.ac.kr  by garam.seri.re.kr (4.0/GARAM-0.1)
	id AA05547; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:53:16 KDT
Received: from uhics.ics.hawaii.edu by kum.kaist.ac.kr (4.0/KUM-0.1)
	id AA08373; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:36:16 KDT
Received: from mcsun.EU.net by uhics.ics.hawaii.edu (4.1/UHICS-MX-1.4)
	id AA00757; Sun, 7 Oct 90 19:51:52 HST
Received: by mcsun.EU.net with SMTP; Mon, 8 Oct 90 06:56:38 +0100
Received: from localhost by nac.no (5.64+IDA/Babel-1.6/6.0) with SMTP
	id AAnac20646; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:56:01 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655365374>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:55:59 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:55:59 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080455.AB05837@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
Received: from garam.seri.re.kr by sokri.etri.re.kr (4.0/5.17)
Received: from kum.kaist.ac.kr  by garam.seri.re.kr (4.0/GARAM-0.1)
	id AA05540; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:50:23 KDT
Received: from uhics.ics.hawaii.edu by kum.kaist.ac.kr (4.0/KUM-0.1)
	id AA08352; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:33:24 KDT
Received: from mcsun.EU.net by uhics.ics.hawaii.edu (4.1/UHICS-MX-1.4)
	id AA00751; Sun, 7 Oct 90 19:49:02 HST
Received: by mcsun.EU.net with SMTP; Mon, 8 Oct 90 06:53:47 +0100
Received: from localhost by nac.no (5.64+IDA/Babel-1.6/6.0) with SMTP
	id AAnac20622; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:53:18 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655365201>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:53:15 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:53:15 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080453.AB05830@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
Received: from garam.seri.re.kr by sokri.etri.re.kr (4.0/5.17)
Received: from kum.kaist.ac.kr  by garam.seri.re.kr (4.0/GARAM-0.1)
	id AA05529; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:48:06 KDT
Received: from uhics.ics.hawaii.edu by kum.kaist.ac.kr (4.0/KUM-0.1)
	id AA08334; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:31:06 KDT
Received: from mcsun.EU.net by uhics.ics.hawaii.edu (4.1/UHICS-MX-1.4)
	id AA00745; Sun, 7 Oct 90 19:46:45 HST
Received: by mcsun.EU.net with SMTP; Mon, 8 Oct 90 06:51:31 +0100
Received: from localhost by nac.no (5.64+IDA/Babel-1.6/6.0) with SMTP
	id AAnac20597; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:51:05 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655365071>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:51:03 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:51:03 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080450.AB05823@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
Received: from garam.seri.re.kr by sokri.etri.re.kr (4.0/5.17)
Received: from kum.kaist.ac.kr  by garam.seri.re.kr (4.0/GARAM-0.1)
	id AA05523; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:45:09 KDT
Received: from uhics.ics.hawaii.edu by kum.kaist.ac.kr (4.0/KUM-0.1)
	id AA08317; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:28:03 KDT
Received: from mcsun.EU.net by uhics.ics.hawaii.edu (4.1/UHICS-MX-1.4)
	id AA00738; Sun, 7 Oct 90 19:42:39 HST
Received: by mcsun.EU.net with SMTP; Mon, 8 Oct 90 06:47:27 +0100
Received: from localhost by nac.no (5.64+IDA/Babel-1.6/6.0) with SMTP
	id AAnac20551; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:46:49 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655364812>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:46:47 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:46:47 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080447.AB05816@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
Received: from garam.seri.re.kr by sokri.etri.re.kr (4.0/5.17)
Received: from kum.kaist.ac.kr  by garam.seri.re.kr (4.0/GARAM-0.1)
	id AA05517; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:41:43 KDT
Received: from uhics.ics.hawaii.edu by kum.kaist.ac.kr (4.0/KUM-0.1)
	id AA08297; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:24:46 KDT
Received: from mcsun.EU.net by uhics.ics.hawaii.edu (4.1/UHICS-MX-1.4)
	id AA00732; Sun, 7 Oct 90 19:40:24 HST
Received: by mcsun.EU.net with SMTP; Mon, 8 Oct 90 06:45:06 +0100
Received: from localhost by nac.no (5.64+IDA/Babel-1.6/6.0) with SMTP
	id AAnac20526; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:44:21 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655364666>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:44:17 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:44:17 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080443.AB05809@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
Received: from garam.seri.re.kr by sokri.etri.re.kr (4.0/5.17)
Received: from kum.kaist.ac.kr  by garam.seri.re.kr (4.0/GARAM-0.1)
	id AA05508; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:38:38 KDT
Received: from uhics.ics.hawaii.edu by kum.kaist.ac.kr (4.0/KUM-0.1)
	id AA08270; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:21:41 KDT
Received: from mcsun.EU.net by uhics.ics.hawaii.edu (4.1/UHICS-MX-1.4)
	id AA00725; Sun, 7 Oct 90 19:37:22 HST
Received: by mcsun.EU.net with SMTP; Mon, 8 Oct 90 06:42:09 +0100
Received: from localhost by nac.no (5.64+IDA/Babel-1.6/6.0) with SMTP
	id AAnac20485; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:41:37 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655364502>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:41:33 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:41:33 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080441.AB05802@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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	id <nac.655364349>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:39:05 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:39:05 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080439.AB05794@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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	id <nac.655364216>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:36:52 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:36:52 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080437.AB05787@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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	id <nac.655364062>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:34:13 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:34:13 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080334.AB05773@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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	id AA04962; Mon, 8 Oct 90 13:29:19 KDT
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	id <nac.655357818>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 04:47:14 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 04:47:14 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@nac.no>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Subject: Returned mail: Unable to deliver mail
Message-Id: <655357631.16502.0@nac.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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554 xfAAnac10384: line 10: <yonadav@taurus.bitnet>... Host taurus not known within the bitnet domain
554 xfAAnac10384: line 12: <DICOM2@ibacsata.earn>... Domain earn not known--please try to route manually
554 xfAAnac10384: line 13: <MHSNEWS@ibacsata.earn>... Domain earn not known--please try to route manually
554 xfAAnac10384: line 15: <vesalainen@haseoc.bitnet>... Host haseoc not known within the bitnet domain
554 xfAAnac10384: line 24: <VAL044@dd0rud81.bitnet>... Host dd0rud81 not known within the bitnet domain

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	id <nac.655350779>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 02:52:36 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 02:52:36 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080042.AC05574@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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	id <nac.655282206>; Sun, 7 Oct 1990 07:47:49 +0100
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 1990 07:47:49 +0100
From: Erik Naggum <enag@ifi.uio.no>, Jerry Sweet <mailmod@ICS.UCI.edu>
Sender: Erik Naggum <enag@ifi.uio.no>
To: <mhsnews@ICS.UCI.edu>, <mhsnews@ICS.UCI.edu>
Subject: Re: UUCP handling slash in ORAddress
In-Reply-To: <khiem@hpindda.cup.hp.COM's message of 6 Oct 90 17:59:18 GMT>
Message-Id: <ENAG.90Oct7014902@hild.ifi.uio.no>
References: <47920012@hpindda.cup.hp.com>
Message-Id: <6313.655280431@ics.uci.edu>
Message-Id: <655282062.14459.0@runix.runit.sintef.no>
Autoforwarded: true
X-Attn: jns
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400
Path: enag
Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway
Lines: 33

In article <47920012@hpindda.cup.hp.com> khiem@hpindda.cup.hp.COM (Khiem Ho) writes:

   There was some discussion a while back about the ORAddress in
   string form. Various systems now use the convention "/attribute=value".
   We have encountered some problem with using the "/" in ORAddress
   with UUCP (Honeyman-D????). Have anyone encountered other problems with
   slash in ORAddress with UUCP?

What an anachronism!  Is this because you try to use that infernal
ORaddress syntax in some kind of UUCP<->Internet<->X.400 gateway
thing?  "X.400 croaked for want of a slash."  :-D

If you run UUCP <-> X.400 gateways, why not send the binary image to
some special program on the other side which understands the X.400
message?  No need to resort to the RFC 1138/48 (whatever) or RFC 987
mapping.  UUCP is supposed to be 8-bit clean, anyhow.

Oh, well, if someone takes this seriously and does it, let me know.

Another solution is perhaps to write out some batch smtp stuff and
mail it off to a b-smtp program which can decode that envelope.  Or
invent something new.

Whatever.  But please, please, don't consider the character set legal
on an rmail command line (UUCP "envelope") as important enough to
think seriously about.  It may not go away, but there are better ways
around that problem than to restrict the character set of ORaddresses.
Believe me, I know all about those restrictions.

--
[Erik Naggum]		Naggum Software; Gaustadalleen 21; 0371 OSLO; NORWAY
	I disclaim,	<erik@naggum.uu.no>, <enag@ifi.uio.no>
  therefore I post.	+47-295-8622, +47-256-7822, (fax) +47-260-4427

MAILER-DAEMON@nac.no (Mail Delivery Subsystem) (10/10/90)

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554 xfAAnac25838: line 10: <yonadav@taurus.bitnet>... Host taurus not known within the bitnet domain
554 xfAAnac25838: line 12: <DICOM2@ibacsata.earn>... Domain earn not known--please try to route manually
554 xfAAnac25838: line 13: <MHSNEWS@ibacsata.earn>... Domain earn not known--please try to route manually
554 xfAAnac25838: line 15: <vesalainen@haseoc.bitnet>... Host haseoc not known within the bitnet domain
554 xfAAnac25838: line 23: <VAL044@dd0rud81.bitnet>... Host dd0rud81 not known within the bitnet domain

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	id <nac.655506074>; Tue, 9 Oct 1990 21:38:46 +0100
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 1990 21:38:46 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de>
Subject: Returned mail: unknown mailer error 1
Reply-To: <MAILER-DAEMON@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de>
Message-Id: <9010090226.AA05005@gshegering1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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mail: cannot append to /usr/spool/mail/kaiser
Mail saved in dead.letter
554 <kaiser@gshegering1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>... unknown mailer error 1

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	from tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
	id AA05001; Tue, 9 Oct 90 03:26:55 +0100
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	from tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
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Reply-To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Received: by uninett with X.400; 08 Oct 90 14:37:16+0100
Date: 08 Oct 90 14:37:16+0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr.NONE.no>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010081236.AB06078@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: True

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 11:38:38 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080938.AB06036@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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	id <nac.655382055>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 11:34:05 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 11:34:05 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080933.AB06022@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
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	id <nac.655381835>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 11:29:32 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 11:29:32 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080929.AB06002@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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	id AA05942; Mon, 8 Oct 90 19:23:52 KDT
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	id <nac.655381582>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 11:26:15 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 11:26:15 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080801.AB05935@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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	id AAnac26759; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 09:04:05 +0100
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	id <nac.655373061>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 09:04:02 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 09:04:02 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080658.AB05899@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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	id <nac.655371351>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 08:35:42 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 08:35:42 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080635.AB05891@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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	id AA05767; Mon, 8 Oct 90 16:30:09 KDT
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From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080324.AB05766@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 05:21:58 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080319.AB05759@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 05:17:24 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080316.AB05749@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 05:13:17 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080313.AB05729@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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	id <nac.655359050>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 05:10:39 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 05:10:39 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080310.AB05716@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 05:08:38 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080309.AB05709@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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	id <nac.655358828>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 05:07:03 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 05:07:03 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080303.AB05702@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080300.AB05695@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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	id <nac.655357806>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 04:47:20 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 04:47:20 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@nac.no>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Subject: Returned mail: Unable to deliver mail
Message-Id: <655357638.16507.0@nac.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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554 xfAAnac11610: line 10: <yonadav@taurus.bitnet>... Host taurus not known within the bitnet domain
554 xfAAnac11610: line 12: <DICOM2@ibacsata.earn>... Domain earn not known--please try to route manually
554 xfAAnac11610: line 13: <MHSNEWS@ibacsata.earn>... Domain earn not known--please try to route manually
554 xfAAnac11610: line 15: <vesalainen@haseoc.bitnet>... Host haseoc not known within the bitnet domain
554 xfAAnac11610: line 24: <VAL044@dd0rud81.bitnet>... Host dd0rud81 not known within the bitnet domain

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From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080134.AB05649@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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	id <nac.655193980>; Sat, 6 Oct 1990 06:55:33 +0100
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 1990 06:55:33 +0100
From: "Lee Rothstein, 603-884-0039" <rothstein@nutmeg.enet.dec.com>,
        Jerry Sweet <mailmod@ICS.UCI.edu>
Sender: <newsdaemon@shlump.nac.dec.com>
To: <mhsnews@ICS.UCI.edu>, <mhsnews@ICS.UCI.edu>
Subject: Was: X.400 version 88?  Correction on previous post!
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In article <1990Oct1.091921.3178@idt.unit.no>,
harald.alvestrand@elab-runit.sintef.no writes...

>In message <15515@shlump.nac.dec.com>, rothstein@nutmeg.enet.dec.COM
>("Lee Rothstein, 603-884-0039") writes:

>> ALL-IN-1 MAIL is a 1988 P2 conformant UA developed and marketed
>> by Digital.

>Now that PP is out, with a "1988 version beta test channel", it should be
>possible to start some interworking tests.

>Who else has got X.400/88 implemented?

First, and most important, I erred when I said that ALL-IN-1 MAIL
was 1988 P2 conformant.  It is 1984 P2 conformant.  I apologize
for any misimpressions I may have created.  It was an inadvertant
error.

Second, what is "PP"?

Thanks,

Lee
+---------------------------------------------------------+
| Lee Rothstein * UUCP: {purdue,ucbvax,hplabs,labrea,sun, |
|  pyramid,gryphon,angelo}!decwrl!nutmeg.dec.com!rothstein|
|   * Arpa/Domain Address: rothstein@nutmeg.enet.dec.com  |
+---------------------------------------------------------+

MAILER-DAEMON@nac.no (Mail Delivery Subsystem) (10/10/90)

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554 xfAAnac25611: line 10: <yonadav@taurus.bitnet>... Host taurus not known within the bitnet domain
554 xfAAnac25611: line 12: <DICOM2@ibacsata.earn>... Domain earn not known--please try to route manually
554 xfAAnac25611: line 13: <MHSNEWS@ibacsata.earn>... Domain earn not known--please try to route manually
554 xfAAnac25611: line 15: <vesalainen@haseoc.bitnet>... Host haseoc not known within the bitnet domain
554 xfAAnac25611: line 23: <VAL044@dd0rud81.bitnet>... Host dd0rud81 not known within the bitnet domain

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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 1990 21:57:55 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de>
Subject: Returned mail: unknown mailer error 1
Reply-To: <MAILER-DAEMON@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de>
Message-Id: <9010090227.AA05008@gshegering1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

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mail: cannot append to /usr/spool/mail/kaiser
Mail saved in dead.letter
554 <kaiser@gshegering1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>... unknown mailer error 1

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	from tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
	id AA05003; Tue, 9 Oct 90 03:27:08 +0100
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	from tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
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Reply-To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Received: by uninett with X.400; 08 Oct 90 11:59:01+0100
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From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr.NONE.no>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080958.AB06050@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: True

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 11:54:03 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080937.AB06029@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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	id <nac.655382048>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 11:33:59 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 11:33:59 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080933.AB06015@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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	id AA05959; Mon, 8 Oct 90 19:27:59 KDT
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	id <nac.655381806>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 11:29:54 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 11:29:54 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080929.AB05995@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
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	id AA05941; Mon, 8 Oct 90 19:23:37 KDT
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Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655381536>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 11:25:23 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 11:25:23 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080822.AB05963@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
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	id AA05899; Mon, 8 Oct 90 18:16:35 KDT
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	id AAnac29997; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 10:17:28 +0100
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	id <nac.655377454>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 10:17:25 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 10:17:25 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080816.AB05956@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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	id AA05891; Mon, 8 Oct 90 18:11:04 KDT
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	id <nac.655377148>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 10:12:19 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 10:12:19 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080811.AB05944@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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	id AA05879; Mon, 8 Oct 90 18:06:26 KDT
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	id <nac.655373488>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 09:11:13 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 09:11:13 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080704.AB05909@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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	id <nac.655371291>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 08:34:41 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 08:34:41 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080515.AB05872@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
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	id AA05605; Mon, 8 Oct 90 15:10:08 KDT
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	id <nac.655366374>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 07:12:44 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 07:12:44 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080507.AB05864@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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	id AA05582; Mon, 8 Oct 90 15:01:50 KDT
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	id AA08414; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:44:52 KDT
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	id <nac.655365889>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 07:04:42 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 07:04:42 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080504.AB05857@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
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	id AA05572; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:59:14 KDT
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	id AA08400; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:42:12 KDT
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	id AAnac20686; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:58:38 +0100
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	id <nac.655365524>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:58:34 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:58:34 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080458.AB05844@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
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	id AA05547; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:53:16 KDT
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	id AA08373; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:36:16 KDT
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	id AAnac20646; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:56:01 +0100
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	id <nac.655365374>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:55:59 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:55:59 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080455.AB05837@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
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Received: from kum.kaist.ac.kr  by garam.seri.re.kr (4.0/GARAM-0.1)
	id AA05540; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:50:23 KDT
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	id AA08352; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:33:24 KDT
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	id AAnac20622; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:53:18 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655365201>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:53:15 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:53:15 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080453.AB05830@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
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Received: from kum.kaist.ac.kr  by garam.seri.re.kr (4.0/GARAM-0.1)
	id AA05529; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:48:06 KDT
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	id AA08334; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:31:06 KDT
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	id AAnac20597; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:51:05 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655365071>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:51:03 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:51:03 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080450.AB05823@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
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Received: from kum.kaist.ac.kr  by garam.seri.re.kr (4.0/GARAM-0.1)
	id AA05523; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:45:09 KDT
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	id AA08317; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:28:03 KDT
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	id AA00738; Sun, 7 Oct 90 19:42:39 HST
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	id AAnac20551; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:46:49 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655364812>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:46:47 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:46:47 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080447.AB05816@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
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Received: from kum.kaist.ac.kr  by garam.seri.re.kr (4.0/GARAM-0.1)
	id AA05517; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:41:43 KDT
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	id AA08297; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:24:46 KDT
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	id AA00732; Sun, 7 Oct 90 19:40:24 HST
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	id AAnac20526; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:44:21 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655364666>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:44:17 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:44:17 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080443.AB05809@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
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Received: from kum.kaist.ac.kr  by garam.seri.re.kr (4.0/GARAM-0.1)
	id AA05508; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:38:38 KDT
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	id AA08270; Mon, 8 Oct 90 14:21:41 KDT
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	id AA00725; Sun, 7 Oct 90 19:37:22 HST
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	id AAnac20485; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:41:37 +0100
Received: from /PRMD=uninett/ADMD=_/C=no/ by nac.no with X.400
	id <nac.655364502>; Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:41:33 +0100
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 1990 06:41:33 +0100
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@sokri.etri.re.kr>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9010080441.AB05802@sokri.etri.re.kr>
To: <MHSnews.distribution@uninett.no>
Autoforwarded: true

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
<<< 550 <MHSnews@etrivax>... User unknown
550 <MHSnews@etrivax.etri.re.kr>... User unknown
550 UCB-Master... User unknown

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>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
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Connected to etrivax:
>>> RCPT To:<MHSnews@etrivax>
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554 xfAAnac10384: line 10: <yonadav@taurus.bitnet>... Host taurus not known within the bitnet domain
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From: Erik Naggum <enag@ifi.uio.no>, Jerry Sweet <mailmod@ICS.UCI.edu>
Sender: Erik Naggum <enag@ifi.uio.no>
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Subject: Re: UUCP handling slash in ORAddress
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In article <47920012@hpindda.cup.hp.com> khiem@hpindda.cup.hp.COM (Khiem Ho) writes:

   There was some discussion a while back about the ORAddress in
   string form. Various systems now use the convention "/attribute=value".
   We have encountered some problem with using the "/" in ORAddress
   with UUCP (Honeyman-D????). Have anyone encountered other problems with
   slash in ORAddress with UUCP?

What an anachronism!  Is this because you try to use that infernal
ORaddress syntax in some kind of UUCP<->Internet<->X.400 gateway
thing?  "X.400 croaked for want of a slash."  :-D

If you run UUCP <-> X.400 gateways, why not send the binary image to
some special program on the other side which understands the X.400
message?  No need to resort to the RFC 1138/48 (whatever) or RFC 987
mapping.  UUCP is supposed to be 8-bit clean, anyhow.

Oh, well, if someone takes this seriously and does it, let me know.

Another solution is perhaps to write out some batch smtp stuff and
mail it off to a b-smtp program which can decode that envelope.  Or
invent something new.

Whatever.  But please, please, don't consider the character set legal
on an rmail command line (UUCP "envelope") as important enough to
think seriously about.  It may not go away, but there are better ways
around that problem than to restrict the character set of ORaddresses.
Believe me, I know all about those restrictions.

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