[net.games.rogue] You are being held

greenber@acf4.UUCP (09/19/84)

< You are still being held by the rogue bug -More->


okay...there I am.. Every potion you can think of.  I'm a level 7 on
level 9 with a decent amount of hit points.  Many Leprecauns have
done battle with me and, alas, have usually run away with the kings
ransom I had collected on other levels.  My armor class is 5.  My
strength is 16.  My mace is doubly enchanted, and I know that this
is the game that I will win.  I'm finding weapons and scrolls and potions
wherever I look.

And then a nasty rattlesnake starts in on me.  I have no fear, so
I fight with him for a while.  Well, he must have been pissed at all
of his brethern that I took out with a single blow, because he is a
REAL nasty.

I figure its time to polymorph him.  I'm standing diagonally up and
to his left.  I zap him! And he turns into a Venus Fly Trap, which
hits. So I go straight up, away from him.  I figure I'm safe, and
I'll stand back and hit the Dumb Plant with some darts, or chuck some
poison in its gizzard.  So I go to move:

You are being held

Thats it.  No matter which way I turn, I'm stuck.  When a nasty comes
up to get me from any side, I gotta throw stuff at it, since I can't
even attack without the damnable message from above telling me that
I'm Held!!

Centaurs try for me. I throw my darts at them, and they die, like the
pond scum their mothers were.  Rattlesnakes come, and I throw some
arrows at them.  I'm weilding my bow, so I take them out easily. The
floor is looking like a battlefield with all of my arrows and darts
littering it. BUT I CAN'T MOVE.  The Quagga comes and starts taking
massive hits off me.  But I get him just in the nick of time, with
the last of my arrows.  Then another quagga, probably the girlfriend
of our recently demised quaqqa, takes a swing. A swing and a miss and
a swing and a deadly blow. My hits are low. I go to shoot an arrow.
None. I try to throw a dart. None. Potions? None. Scrolls? None.
I throw my mace. It misses.  I die with a dying question on my lips:

WHAT WAS HOLDING ME???  IS THIS A BUG???? IF IT IS, CONSIDER MY FLAME
ON!!!!!!  IF NOT, TELL ME HOW A VENUS CAN HOLD YOU FROM TWO AWAY ---
AFTER YOU'VE ALREADY MOVED!!!!


ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!



Ross M. Greenberg  @ NYU   ---->  allegra!cmcl2!acf4!greenber  <----

barmar@mit-eddie.UUCP (Barry Margolin) (09/21/84)

You were being held by the Venus Fly Trap, as that it their magic power.
You can still attack it while you are held.
-- 
    Barry Margolin
    ARPA: barmar@MIT-Multics
    UUCP: ..!genrad!mit-eddie!barmar

kevin@amdcad.UUCP (Kevin OwWing) (09/21/84)

>            ...I zap him! And he turns into a Venus Fly Trap, which
> hits. So I go straight up, away from him.

	It's been my experience that once the ol F hits, you are going
	to be held, and that its odd that you were able to move
	away from him in the first place.

>       ... IF NOT, TELL ME HOW A VENUS CAN HOLD YOU FROM TWO AWAY ---
> AFTER YOU'VE ALREADY MOVED!!!!
> 
> Ross M. Greenberg  @ NYU   ---->  allegra!cmcl2!acf4!greenber  <----

	Sorry, I can't.

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greenber@acf4.UUCP (09/24/84)

>	You were being held by the Venus Fly Trap, as that it their magic power.
>	You can still attack it while you are held.

>	  Barry Margolin
>	    ARPA: barmar@MIT-Multics
>	    UUCP: ..!genrad!mit-eddie!barmar

Note the points that really got to me:
	1)	I was able to get away, and it looked like this:

                  -----------
                  |.........|
                  |......@..|
                  |.........|
                  |........F|
                  --+--------

	then I got held.

	2)	Also, when a nasty came up to hit me FROM ANY SIDE, I
		could not strike back except by throwing things.  Whenever
		I tried to attack a nasty next to me I got that dumb
		message, You are being Held!!

I'm still convinced it is a bug, but then only the creators of the game
could adequately answer that (you out there guys?)


Ross M. Greenberg  @ NYU   ---->  allegra!cmcl2!acf4!greenber  <----