rsk@pucc-h (Rich Kulawiec) (10/08/84)
> From: robert@gitpyr.UUCP (Robert Viduya) > > Could someone explain to me just exactly how to use rods/staffs/wands/long- > cylinder called 'teleport from' and 'teleport to'? I've tried just about > everything with these things and have gotten nothing from them. We're running > Rogue Version 5.3. > They're "Teleport Away" and "Teleport To"; #1 will zap a critter off to another location on the current level; hopefully, not a location right next to you. #2 will zap a critter right up next to you; useful when encountering a monster room with one wimpy monster, such as an Aquator, and a number of other ugly uglies--zap the wimp in order to block the doorway, and then use bow&arrow/shurikens/darts to knock off the bad guys while they're on a diagonal, and unable to hit you. I believe both staves always hit. (version 5.3) > From: lahren@sunybcs.UUCP (James A. Lahren) > > 1) at what level do i first have a chance to find the amulet of yendor? > and, if i miss it on one level, what is the possibility of it appearing > on the next level down, ect. > > 2) for some reason, everytime i get a good game going 4500+ i seem to > get killed by a black unicorn. know assuming i don't have anything > interesting, how do i kill it. ( last time, as in about 10 hours ago > from this posting, i was killed having about 55 hit points, a > +3,0 two handed sword, +7 enchanted armour, and strength of 20. > i didn't have any scrolls, or potions that would help, but when > i ran into it, i had a wand and a staff that i as yet hadn't > identified. > The Amulet will first appear on level 26. It will keep appearing on every level as you go down--if you're not carrying it. I don't think 55 HP are enough to go up against a U, even with the stated weapon, armor, and strength; I think I'd try out some of the magic items, even unknown ones, rather than slugging it out toe-to-toe with him. The usual bag of tricks that one would employ on a (T,G,J) are what's called for. > From: wall@ucbvax.ARPA (Steve Wall) > Subject: Interesting use for slow monster staff/wand > I'm not sure if this is any great insight, but I found a new use > for the slow monster staff/wand. Say you have the following: > First, zap (and hopefully hit) the troll. He will hit you once, but then > hit him, step back (or diagonal), hit him, step again, etc., etc. This way > you get "free" hits while you back up. Of course, if you back into another > monster, then you're up the creek again: > I'm curious; what else would one use a Slow Monster staff for? > From: midkiff@uiucdcsb.UUCP > > The maniacal laughter scroll is not a hold monster, but rather the > more useful SCARE monster. Strange sense of loss does indeed come > from reading a hold scroll or an enchant scroll when nothing is available > to enchant. > > From: rcook@uiucuxc.UUCP > > No, that is not correct. The hold monster scroll would say "you hear > maniacal laughter in the distance". I believe that the message > "you feel a strange sense of loss" is associated with not having any > armour on when you read a scroll of protect armour. Okay, in 5.3, the Scare Monster scroll generates the "maniacal laughter" message when read; the Hold Monster scroll generates the "sense of loss" message when read if no monsters are present; and the enchantment scrolls, and the "rustoleum" scroll, as far as I can recall, generate NO message if nothing's available to enchant. -- ---Rsk UUCP: { decvax, icalqa, ihnp4, inuxc, sequent, uiucdcs } !pur-ee!rsk { decwrl, hplabs, icase, psuvax1, siemens, ucbvax } !purdue!rsk When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.
wall@ucbvax.ARPA (Steve Wall) (10/10/84)
> > From: wall@ucbvax.ARPA (Steve Wall) > > Subject: Interesting use for slow monster staff/wand > > I'm not sure if this is any great insight, but I found a new use > > for the slow monster staff/wand. > > I'm curious; what else would one use a Slow Monster staff for? Obviously this was no great insight......I won't even try to explain how I used to use it.... > the enchantment > scrolls, and the "rustoleum" scroll, as far as I can recall, generate NO > message if nothing's available to enchant. > -- > ---Rsk > I still stand by my claim that AT LEAST the enchant weapon scroll will say "You feel a strange sense of loss" when you read it without a weapon in your hand. I still cannot say for sure that the enchant/protect armor scrolls do the same, but I have a feeling that they do. I'm using version 5.3 . Steve wall@ucbarpa ..!ucbvax!wall
lahren@sunybcs.UUCP (James A. Lahren) (10/13/84)
> > I still stand by my claim that AT LEAST the enchant weapon scroll will say > "You feel a strange sense of loss" when you read it without a weapon in > your hand. I still cannot say for sure that the enchant/protect armor > scrolls do the same, but I have a feeling that they do. I'm using version 5.3 . ***************************************************************************** ***************************************************************************** WRONG.......WRONG..........WRONG..........WRONG..........WRONG.......WRONG.. To put this debate to an end, once and for all, (I hope), I played a "suicide game" just to test out this theory..... Anyway, "a strange sense of loss" will only occur when a scare monster scroll is read, NOT when an echant weapon scroll is read and no armour is being read.... As for the protect/enchant armour scrolls, I never was able to find out, but will let you all know when they do..... By no means a rogue wizard, but certainly trying... .. jim lahren
lahren@sunybcs.UUCP (James A. Lahren) (10/13/84)
{ sorry }
forget to mention that I was referring to version 5.3
..jim lahrentom@uwai.UUCP (10/13/84)
> > > > I still stand by my claim that AT LEAST the enchant weapon scroll will say > > "You feel a strange sense of loss" when you read it without a weapon in > > your hand. I still cannot say for sure that the enchant/protect armor > > scrolls do the same, but I have a feeling that they do. I'm using version 5.3 . > ***************************************************************************** > ***************************************************************************** > > WRONG.......WRONG..........WRONG..........WRONG..........WRONG.......WRONG.. > > To put this debate to an end, once and for all, (I hope), I played > a "suicide game" just to test out this theory..... > > Anyway, "a strange sense of loss" will only occur when a scare > monster scroll is read, NOT when an enchant weapon scroll is read > and no armour is being read.... > > As for the protect/enchant armour scrolls, I never was able to find > out, but will let you all know when they do..... > > > By no means a rogue wizard, > but certainly trying... > > .. jim lahren last time *i* played 5.3, the strange sense of loss message comes from hold monster, not scare monster. nonetheless, there seems to be a large following on the net who claim the contrary. why? tom -- Tom Christiansen University of Wisconsin Computer Science Systems Lab ...!{allegra,heurikon,ihnp4,seismo,uwm-evax}!uwvax!tom tom@wisc-crys.arpa
kevin@amdcad.UUCP (Kevin OwWing) (10/14/84)
> > WRONG.......WRONG..........WRONG..........WRONG..........WRONG.......WRONG.. > > To put this debate to an end, once and for all, (I hope), I played > a "suicide game" just to test out this theory..... > > Anyway, "a strange sense of loss" will only occur when a scare > monster scroll is read, NOT when an echant weapon scroll is read > and no armour is being read.... > > .. jim lahren Nope, its the hold monster scroll that gives that message, and yes the enchant weapon scroll will say the same if say, you are weilding a wand (at least thats what happened to me).
chris@byucsa.UUCP (Chris J. Grevstad) (10/15/84)
<> It is certainly the case that in 5.2 you experience a stange sense of loss either (and only!) when you read an enchant weapon scroll and you either are wielding no weapon or an item that is not recognized as a weapon (ie a potion), or when you read a scroll of hold monster and there are no monsters to hold. It is not the case with scare monster (which is the maniacal laughter scroll) or when you are not wearing armor and read an enchant armor scroll. I'm not sure what happens in the case of no armor but it is definitely *not* the strange sense of loss. -- Chris Grevstad You see what you want to see... You hear what you want to hear...
gwyn@brl-tgr.ARPA (Doug Gwyn <gwyn>) (10/16/84)
I don't see how you're going to "put this debate to an end" when you state wrong answers. In 5.3, you do NOT get "a strange sense of loss" from a scroll of scare monster. I think you mean hold monster.
greenber@acf4.UUCP (10/16/84)
<> Enough!!!! Could we move this discussion to net.religion??? Ross M. Greenberg @ NYU ----> allegra!cmcl2!acf4!greenber <----