daemon@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Admin) (05/03/89)
>From badile!forman Wed May 3 15:46:06 MET 1989 remote from ethz This is not a bug report, but I didn't have another network address to use. Yes, I am impressed with EMACS. What a lot of effort! and somehow distributed free?!? I don't understand the principle, but it's probably just because I'm too capitalistic. How does the Foundatation pay its costs? Hmmm... I disagree with some of the default key bindings, but have no legitimate ground to complain since it's all re-bindable. (Do consider that one must repeatedly hit ESC between "v" strokes to page up, but not to C-v down through a file, if you have time or interest.) I commend EMACS for being rebindable, configurable, programmable, flexible, ___ible, ... very versatile, so much so that it will serve as an OS interface someday as GNU. BUT the price for all that is that it is kinda heavy. >>>>> My question is: is there such thing as a "lightweight EMACS" which can be run on smaller machines, e.g. PC's running MINIX or such UNIX-similar operating systems? Is it possible to run EMACS either without huge memory or (exclusive) without hard disk? Thanks, GHF
bob@cis.ohio-state.edu (Bob Sutterfield) (05/04/89)
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>From badile!forman Wed May 3 15:46:06 MET 1989 remote from ethz
(Do consider that one must repeatedly hit ESC between "v" strokes
to page up, but not to C-v down through a file.)
Remember that the separate-key ESC prefix is a crutch to help poor
folks without a real META key. So-equipped, a terminal or workstation
keyboard renders both these operations (scroll-up and scroll-down)
into single-keystroke operations, the only difference being which
other key you hold down while you press "v".
BUT the price for all that [power] is that it is kinda heavy...
is there such thing as a "lightweight EMACS" which can be run on
smaller machines, e.g. PC's running MINIX or such UNIX-similar
operating systems?
Yes, there are several flavors of MicroEmacs and the like. See the
newsgroup comp.emacs for periodic discussions of what kind to get and
where to get it.rbj@DSYS.ICST.NBS.GOV (Root Boy Jim) (05/05/89)
? From: bob@cis.ohio-state.edu (Bob Sutterfield) ? >From badile!forman Wed May 3 15:46:06 MET 1989 remote from ethz ? (Do consider that one must repeatedly hit ESC between "v" strokes ? to page up, but not to C-v down through a file.) ? Remember that the separate-key ESC prefix is a crutch to help poor ? folks without a real META key. So-equipped, a terminal or workstation ? keyboard renders both these operations (scroll-up and scroll-down) ? into single-keystroke operations, the only difference being which ? other key you hold down while you press "v". Good point about the meta-key, but ^V is still a bit of a reach, even for a guitar player. I swap the bindings of ^A and ^V, and bind ^Z to scroll-down for a bit of an easier reach. Suspend is on ^X^Z anyway. Root Boy Jim is what I am Are you what you are or what?