peter@ontmoh.UUCP (Peter Renzland) (06/09/89)
soley@moegate.UUCP (Norman S. Soley) writes: > In article <2176@ubc-cs.UUCP> morrison@grads.cs.ubc.ca (Rick Morrison) writes: >> >>Now, I have been subscribing (reading would be too generous) to this >>group since its inception. I have yet to discern any reason why anything >>that appears here would be of any interest to anyone outside of an >>apparently small clique of readers in Toronto and near vicinity. I have yet to discern any reason why any one anywhere in Canada should hesitate to post any real or imagined contribution of local, regional, national, or universal interest. >>I suggest that rather that than wasting network resources, nation-wide, >>on the sort of idle chatter that predominates here, that this group be >>converted to 1 (or more) regional mailing lists. A call for yet more newsgroups when there appear to be more than enough to carry the perceived volume of traffic? > Here! Here! I've never understood why we needed this group in the first place, > I refused to newgroup it when I was on ontenv, somehow it slipped through the > cracks here. The argument runs something like this: > > We already have comp.org.usrgroup, and the ability to limit > distrubution to can so we don't need it for /usr/group/cdn I made this argument, but was overwhelmed by a majority of people who felt that the use of "Distribution:" would overtax the mental powers of typical posters. I had gone to a lot of trouble to (legally) create comp.org.usrgroup in the first place. Can.usrgroup was then created without formal procedures, as "it was felt that this was not necessary". > We already have ont.events for meeting announcements for UU and > /usr/group/cdn so we don't need it for that. Mind if I rephrase that? "we already have ont.events for UU and /usr/group/cdn events in Ontario, etc. Events should be cross-posted to comp.org.usrgroup, using appropriate distribution." > UU has a mailing list for their internal chatter so we don't need it > for that. In fact, I get everything twice. Judging by content quality, once would appear to be more than enough. Moreover, the mailing list once was a cohesive list of like-minded people. The newsgroup contains countless spectators, who may not all be quite as *unanimous* with their good will. > The traffic in {can,ont,tor}.general is low enough that if there is > actually something to be discussed publicly about either of these > organizations there's plenty of room for it. Why not discuss in comp.org.usrgroup, using appropriate distribution? > So, what do we need can.usrgroup for? > > OK, I'm about to 'rmgroup -d local can.usrgroup' anybody care to talk me out of > it? Not me. :-) [Above is my own opinion, not /usr/group/cdn policy, whatever that may be.] -- Peter
tony@oha.UUCP (Tony Olekshy) (06/11/89)
Our newsgroups file contains can.ai, can.general, can.jobs, can.politics,
can.sun-stroke, can.usrgroup, and can.uucp. Ignoring ai and sun-stroke, it
seems to me that a broad interpretation of the *names* of these groups is
quite useful:
can.jobs Canadian misc.jobs.{offers,resumes,misc}.
can.politics Political issues of interest to Canadians.
can.usrgroup User Group issues of interest to Canadians.
can.uucp UUCP Network issues of interest to Canadians.
can.general Other issues of interest to Canadians.
When /usr/group/edmonton publishes its year-in-review article, I think it
should go in can.usrgroup. If you take can.usrgroup away, we will have to
post it to can.general. Similarly, can.usrgroup is the place to discuss user
groups sharing visiting speakers, having BoF at various conferences, etc.
The above groups seem to cover the traffic patterns quite nicely, except for
one glaring omission: a place for technology questions, requests for help, and
discussions. I suggest can.tech-help (no wait, that's awful), or equivalent,
to cover things like operating systems, programming languages, hardware, etc.
A final puzzler: although I haven't seen any traffic to justify it, why don't
we have a can.class-ad for a Canadian misc.{wanted,forsale}? I'd check it
every day, and unsubscribe from the misc.forsale group.
I'm sure I could write more on this, but I'll leave it up to you to ask me to.
Of, course, these are just my opinions, not those of /usr/group/edmonton.
--
Yours, etc., Tony Olekshy (...!alberta!oha!tony or tony@oha.UUCP).