[comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d] I have Kermit 2.32

jkg@gatech.edu (Jim Greenlee) (01/27/89)

In article <4368@okstate.UUCP> klarich@okstate.UUCP (terry klarich) writes:
>Does anyone know where I can get the newest version of mskermit?  I had it
>once, but can't find it.  I don't have ftp or uucp.  So, I need a bbs
>number or Unix login.  I can down load with zmodem and kermit.

I have the complete Kermit 2.32 distribution (executables for IBM and 
MS, docs, etc.) that I am willing to submit to comp.binaries if there is 
sufficient interest. However, I would like to get suggestions from people 
about what is the most appropriate way of packaging the thing. There was 
some wailing and gnashing of teeth after I posted version 2.31 last fall,
so I'd like to make an effort this time around to do something that works 
well for a majority of users.

Here's a manifest so that everybody can see what I've got (and, more
importantly, how big it is):

Name            Length    Stowage    SF   Size now  Date       Time    CRC
==============  ========  ========  ====  ========  =========  ======  ====
mskerm.bwr         14222  Crunched   43%      8112   6 Jan 89   3:38p  4dee
mskerm.doc        332577  Crunched   50%    169182   6 Jan 89   3:38p  7ff8
mskerm.hlp         16190  Crunched   46%      8879   6 Jan 89   3:38p  4f94
msr232.upd         20966  Crunched   47%     11166   6 Jan 89   3:39p  0ac7
msvgen.exe         70531  Squeezed   28%     51153   6 Jan 89   3:40p  35da
msvibm.exe        101923  Squeezed   25%     77374   6 Jan 89   3:38p  2819
scanchek.c         18428  Crunched   55%      8466  17 Jul 88  10:45a  a87b
scanchek.exe        9784  Squeezed   10%      8815  17 Jul 88  10:49a  6cde
scanchek.hlp        2318  Crunched   35%      1507  17 Jul 88  10:45a  2d6c
        ======  ========            ====  ========
Total        9    586939             42%    344654  

I see three different possibilities for accomplishing this:

1. Post the entire archive as a single unit (uuencoded, of course). I don't
   favor this option because it would require about a 10 part posting and
   result in the inevitable flood of "I missed part N" postings (and mail).
   This was how I got in trouble last time, and I learned my lesson.

2. Post the uuencoded binaries and plain-text documents separately. This
   should keep the you-should-never-post-archived-text folks happy, but
   will significantly increase the number of postings required to get
   the whole thing out (just look at the size of that doc file, folks).
   It will also probably increase the number of "I missed part N" postings.

3. Post the uuencoded Kermit executables (msvgen.exe and msvibm.exe), the
   archived and unencoded Scanchek package, and the archived and uuencoded 
   doc files as four separate postings. I favor this idea. The total number 
   of postings will not be significantly different from option (1), and the
   folks who only need or want a small portion don't have to worry about
   trying to get the whole thing.

I should probably mention that I intend on creating the archives using arc
on a UNIX machine. Anybody that has heartburn over that should let me know.
In any event, I'll go with the consensus opinion on this. In the event of a 
tie, I'll ask Ron Heiby to cast the deciding vote (this is a private joke 
between me and Ron - I just hope Ron gets it :-). Let me know what you think.

						Jim Greenlee
-- 
Jim Greenlee - Instructor, School of ICS, Georgia Tech     jkg@gatech.edu

Cato said, "I had rather men should ask why my statue is not set up, than 
why it is." - Plutarch

bobmon@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (RAMontante) (01/27/89)

<17841@gatech.edu> jkg@gatech.UUCP (Jim Greenlee) writes:
>
>I have the complete Kermit 2.32 distribution (executables for IBM and 
>MS, docs, etc.) that I am willing to submit to comp.binaries if there is 
>sufficient interest. However, I would like to get suggestions from people 
>about what is the most appropriate way of packaging the thing. There was 


My suggestion(s):

Send to Rahul Dhesi and let him put them on c.b.i.p -- he's back in
business now, so let him slice'n'dice the final packaging.

(Do something between your options 2 and 3, via Rahul):  Split it into
the executables, and the ASCII text.  The executables need to be
packaged and ascii-ized anyway; the documentation etc.  could be
distributed as ASCII to make the mailers more efficient.  The doc.  file
is the biggest piece anyway.  I think I recall that PAK/ARC etc.  have a
store-without-compression option, which would do the trick.  Certainly
ZOO does; and I'd rather see things distributed in ZOO format anyway.